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verysoon
started this tread on uncommon findings & stupid tips that almost make sense. for ppl like myself who always wish there's more to do on the theme. (sometimes to the extend of overcrowding like i did to this week's theme. oops.gif )
i hope this can help a aspiring thememakers, thememakers running outta ideas, wanting to try new things.

by effort alone wouldn't be enuff to push the levels of thememaking. I NEEDED HELP. if u have any ideas or advice, feel free to post. regardless of the near insanity of it. remember, the wright brothers looked like a fool 101 years ago.

so to start off... i just noticed a few thing maybe u ppl already know :-
  • the highlight bars can never reach the last row of text.
  • on the 128*104 menu, there are max 6 row of text, each 16px high.
  • 16*6=96. so where's the other 8px?... 4px on top and bottom!
  • a row of text almost occupied not more than 10px high. means that u got 6px of space betw rows.
  • so in the menu, u got 7px top & 7px bottom to play with
hope it helps
verysoon
frequently, i always made the mistake of overlooking the text on the standby. including signal, batt indicator, op-logo, time & date and softkeys text.
lotsa time, time & effort is wasted when i discovered important part of my wallpaper is hidden my op-logo and/or time&date.
worse, the indicator blend in too well that it defends their purpose.

.....not anymore. now i use a 128*160px psd transparent overlay to frame my images before further action to prevent abortive works.
why didn't i tot of that earlier..... sigh...
tenax
now that is one neat trick very and one I had not thought of, I have had the same problems created the first part of a theme and then realised that I lose an important part of the wallpaper thumbsup.gif
verysoon
this the psd i'm using, i crop out everything except the indicators & text. hope it's of use.
vinnieza
i used to always miss the loading bar colour, don't forget to change it wink.gif
verysoon
u r right, vince. if overlook, it'll appears as a splinter in an otherwise nice theme.

another tip - after done selecting all the xml colors, turn off "all images in theme preview". that's the last button to the right of TCP. this way, u can at once glance all the colors, easiler without the images turned on.

hope it helps.
vinnieza
it's best to change all the colours, even if it does have an image (well i do anyway) (basicly what very said tongue.gif)
verysoon
thanks vince.... just wanna thank you for dropping a few tips & more....

u c, i was on the train today, just thinking bout photoshop stuff to improve on themes. & of course you ppl. these few days are rather slow action in forum esp w/ expert busy.

i always smile when i see on the front page forum, most reply r flooded with your last post. u actually spend the effort to drop a line here & there. no wonder u r our elite poster. it's ppl like you that forum exist. no one wanna login to read the same post day after day.

& worth mentioning is scuby. he's got the same style but not is "crazy" haha.gif

cheers to u both!
Vlammetje
Good idea for another helpful thread. I agree to the preview without pics so you can sort your colours... this helps preventing one of the more common mistakes... unwillingly creating a colour conflict. Too bad I didn't know this from the start....
vinnieza
thanx very smile.gif, but i couldn't do it without you guys (and gals wink.gif)
augustborn99
i agree with very's sentiments bout vin, scub, and special mention to evrae thumbsup.gif

back to tips/hints:
*i always use the eyedropper tool on my wallpaper to get my RGB colors and color match my oplogos and other elements on TCP
scubyd00
hey everyone smile.gif sorry been outa the loop i've been relying alot on august to keep me posted on the new topics and such since i've been busy up the arss tongue.gif my girlfriend and her mom are pushing for me to work on making some movies from the pics taking from our vaca in disney world so i've not been on for a few days. i just checked the "view new posts" and i've got 3pgs worth of info i need to catch up on tongue.gif

@ very thx for the comment smile.gif i'm not in here as much as everyone else but i do really try my hardest to drop some form of a line when i am smile.gif grouphug.gif coming on wink.gif
vinnieza
thanx august angel_not.gif

we're all a big happy grouphug.gif

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another tip is make sure you have the right sized images, i usualy make the 128*160 pic bigger (maxamized) so i get the edge to and just click on the grey pit so i get everything. When i first started sometimes i'd miss the edge and have to fill in the gap with the paintbrush or do the pic again thumbsup.gif
verysoon
vince asked bout the bolts in my "nerv entry plug" theme

in photoshop :-
  • draw a grey circle 6px dia
  • draw a white line 2px thick across diagonally. should cut across the circle, excess is better
  • magicwand, click the white line
  • now u have a split circle.
  • blending option > emboss, change the highlight to white. play around with the setting til u get the effect
  • blending option > drop shadow, just a little.
  • DONE. now copy as needed.
vinnieza
thanx for the tip very smile.gif, now i can move up my theme making smile.gif
Vlammetje
Oooh will try that one day. doubt I'd be able to do it like you though, very wink.gif
verysoon
nonsense! i'm sure u can! @ vlamm.
dun ever doubt your own abilities.
spunkynut
Am I right in saying that the PopUp window will always say 'More'?
This leaves alot of room to design around that title
verysoon
hey! u r so right! thanks for the tip, a rare tip indeed. thumbsup.gif
i'll watch out for your popup on your next theme. wink.gif
Evrae
I had a crack at the bolt using my Serif Software
scubyd00
i feel so helpless wink.gif i'm a themer and i don't have any secret asian monk secret to help others out. you all have covered it and i've not figured any out yet wink.gif thx alot for all the little snippets thumbsup.gif
verysoon
u do have! @scuby. it's in your sub-conscience. i m sure if i sit beside u while u make a theme, i can learn a couple.
oh. i wished i can sit beside every thememaker while they work. it's a neat way to learn.
@evrae. that's very nice! wish i have a bigger screen like the p900. cos at 5px diameter, it's hard to bring the effect out. one thing to note, evrae, it the direction of light & shadow casting. the C shape highlight & the darker tone at the edge shouldn't be on the same side..... hmm...maybe i m wrong.
can i sit beside u while u draw? haha.gif
scubyd00
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wish i have a bigger screen like the p900.


i too wish i had a bigger screen to work with. some themes would look so much cooler if on a bigger screen smile.gif

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u do have! @scuby. it's in your sub-conscience. i m sure if i sit beside u while u make a theme, i can learn a couple.


i think my girlfriend through away the key to my subconscience to keep me from theme making but i still get away with it tongue.gif ssshhhhhh wink.gif
Vlammetje
laugh.gif
Evrae
Corse you can Very, Im sure you can squeeze in between hubby and me haha.gif

The shadow is a deliberate mistake
scubyd00
this is offtopic.gif i apologize but does anyone know where i can find software program to transfer data via usb data cable? i just recieved my data cable today but i don't have the software for transferring the data. i installed the driver and everything but i need the software sad.gif can anyone help?
augustborn99
oh man, scoob, this post is hopelessly lost. try posting in the "general forum" anyhoo, since e**** is down, google search: "christersson's sendfile"
Evrae
Should have got a dongler
vinnieza
wow photoshops well cool look what i made out of a blue backgtound that's it just pressed ctrl+n then filled the background and used some filters

user posted image
vinnieza
there's a blcak spaceship in there to, if you can see it? it looks lighter in photoshop?
scubyd00
very nice vinn thumbsup.gif i'm still playing around with my data cable. my phone isn't being detected crybaby.gif
maampia
By the way, I know this has been asked by vince before, but I couldn't possibly locate that topic about photoshop, how do I remove that grey colored squares on the upper left of an image in photoshop? I accidentally clicked on something and now I could remove that annoying grey thing. Pls help me...
vinnieza
got view>>>show>>> and click slices wink.gif

Hope this helps smile.gif
maampia
haha.gif Finally got rid of it! Thanks a bunch vince! smile.gif
vinnieza
no prob thumbsup.gif
verysoon
QUOTE (spunkynut @ Jan 28 2004, 12:48 AM)
Am I right in saying that the PopUp window will always say 'More'?
This leaves alot of room to design around that title

eerr..... sometimes, just sometimes, the popup says "add" oops.gif
just realized.
Vlammetje
it does... but not any longer than 4 character words (in english)

HOWEVER...... I have Dutch language on my phone and 'Add' in Dutch is "Toevoegen"..... see my problem?? blink.gif
tenax
oops.gif that is a problem for you vlamm haha.gif
Vlammetje
haha.gif haha.gif just to illustrate that other ppl might have unexpected 'problems' when dlding a theme haha.gif
verysoon
i overlook that problem. forgotten bout the language barrier. know that i did? took a screenshot of the "more" popup. open in PS7, array the word all over, fade.
looks cool...... was writting a mms, to my horror, it says "add". oops.gif
so a popup wasted. but a lesson learnt wink.gif
Evrae
Hi guys, I need help
verysoon
for which? popup title? on your screen shots the dimension is for popup highlight, which i dun think is the one u wanted since the popup is a flat color.

if it's the popup title, (we r talking in relation to the wallpaper at 128*127), it's starts 12px from top & ends 35px from top. offset 5px from left & right.

if the above is not what u wanted to know, drop a post again. i'll be here for you. wink.gif
Vlammetje
oh is that what you meant oops.gif you re right verysoon... in my heaheahhead, in my heaheaheahead haha.gif (singing to Cranberries tune here)
verysoon
laugh.gif & u help me discovered that. (the popup location, this is. Not what's in your head! i dun usually going around messing ppl's head) wink.gif
Evrae
Im a nerd.....
verysoon
when's the last time u check the cookbook ?
Evrae
I rarely use photoshop, not what I wanted but sorted now. Just had to remember
verysoon
write it down, save a file. but then, u still have to remember where u keep them. laugh.gif
vinnieza
i remember all of them, from doing it so much, i know i did have problems with the highlighs, but now i remember all of them smile.gif

128*14
128*127
128*19
128*23
128*104
123*16
118*23
113*16

i think that's all of them, it's easier when your making the theme smile.gif
Evrae
I preset my crops so i can get themes out quicker, instead of working out how many pixels down to pop title or menu I thought someone would have it somewhere. I spend alot of time messing about with making own pics to be taking 14 from 160 then another 19 and so on. I did do a giant piece on my problem that I had, but obviously with me using different software I do things strange
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