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Spawn
http://spawnweb.dk/recode/index.htm
adonisdemon
useful info as usual spawn clap.gif
K700_i
Could this be downloaded separately?
Spawn
#thx adonis smile.gif

#K700 i

what - the guide or the software ?

The guide - yes

The software - no this requires a full NERO installation

K700_i
I meant the software only.. thnks
steven07968
The software is available from Nero's site as an update download, as I had Recode but the walkthrough said you need Recode2, dead easy to install and worked a treat.

Spawn, I must say that your walkthrough guide is quality, very easy to follow through smile.gif However, I've got a Nokia 6230 which also allows 3gp / mp4 so I thought I'd use your guide to create a better quality clip as when I convert my vids to 3gp they aren't the best quality sad.gif Cut a long story short, the file I produced at the end did not work in my phone, presumably as the S700 / K700 allows a higher quality of video spec to be played. So my question is, do you know what spec Can be used for the Nokia 6230? Or who I could contact in order to find out this info.


EDIT:
I've included the Move Info from a MP4 that works in my phone, although not the best quality, but just to show what definitly works.
Spawn
QUOTE(steven07968 @ Nov 24 2004, 11:53 AM)
The software is available from Nero's site as an update download, as I had Recode but the walkthrough said you need Recode2, dead easy to install and worked a treat.

Spawn, I must say that your walkthrough guide is quality, very easy to follow through smile.gif However, I've got a Nokia 6230 which also allows 3gp / mp4 so I thought I'd use your guide to create a better quality clip as when I convert my vids to 3gp they aren't the best quality sad.gif Cut a long story short, the file I produced at the end did not work in my phone, presumably as the S700 / K700 allows a higher quality of video spec to be played. So my question is, do you know what spec Can be used for the Nokia 6230? Or who I could contact in order to find out this info.


EDIT:
I've included the Move Info from a MP4 that works in my phone, although not the best quality, but just to show what definitly works.
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Sure do

Nero Recode encodes audio to AAC only - but 6230 only support AMR audio - and a lower videoresolution and lower videobitrate - hence nero recode cannot be used to encode video for N6230 directly.

Settings for encoding to N6230 should be 128x96pixels, max combined bitrate 96kbit/s, audio must be AMR 8000hz

Tools for encoding to N6230 can be Mpegable X4live, Quicktime or Nokia Converter 2

Im not sure if it support mpeg4 videocodec or only H.263 codec - but If you like we could test some things together to determine optimum settings. I could create some testclips with different settings and you could test them and tell me which works best.
Afterwards I could make a guide with optimum tested settings. ??

steven07968
QUOTE(Spawn @ Nov 24 2004, 01:32 PM)
QUOTE(steven07968 @ Nov 24 2004, 11:53 AM)
The software is available from Nero's site as an update download, as I had Recode but the walkthrough said you need Recode2, dead easy to install and worked a treat.

Spawn, I must say that your walkthrough guide is quality, very easy to follow through smile.gif However, I've got a Nokia 6230 which also allows 3gp / mp4 so I thought I'd use your guide to create a better quality clip as when I convert my vids to 3gp they aren't the best quality sad.gif Cut a long story short, the file I produced at the end did not work in my phone, presumably as the S700 / K700 allows a higher quality of video spec to be played. So my question is, do you know what spec Can be used for the Nokia 6230? Or who I could contact in order to find out this info.


EDIT:
I've included the Move Info from a MP4 that works in my phone, although not the best quality, but just to show what definitly works.
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Sure do

Nero Recode encodes audio to AAC only - but 6230 only support AMR audio - and a lower videoresolution and lower videobitrate - hence nero recode cannot be used to encode video for N6230 directly.

Settings for encoding to N6230 should be 128x96pixels, max combined bitrate 96kbit/s, audio must be AMR 8000hz

Tools for encoding to N6230 can be Mpegable X4live, Quicktime or Nokia Converter 2

Im not sure if it support mpeg4 videocodec or only H.263 codec - but If you like we could test some things together to determine optimum settings. I could create some testclips with different settings and you could test them and tell me which works best.
Afterwards I could make a guide with optimum tested settings. ??
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Spawn your the man! Brilliant info again.

And yes I'd be more than happy to test out clips for you to get the optimum settings for the 6230.

Really impressed with Nero Recode2 though, easy to use and very quick.

Anyway Spawn for the clips, please send any of them onto me at steven07968@hotmail.com and I will test them on my phone and provide you with some feedback on how they look and sound :D
aclark07
Can someone give me the link to download the software?
steven07968
QUOTE(aclark07 @ Nov 24 2004, 02:18 PM)
Can someone give me the link to download the software?
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In order for you to get Nero Recode 2 you must already have Nero 6 Suite installed. Then you need to go to this link:
http://www.nero.com/en/update_nero6.php?pak=2 to download update package 2 which is 32MB. This update has Recode2 as part of it and will let you make the mp4 files with ease :D
aclark07
QUOTE(steven07968 @ Nov 24 2004, 02:35 PM)
QUOTE(aclark07 @ Nov 24 2004, 02:18 PM)
Can someone give me the link to download the software?
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In order for you to get Nero Recode 2 you must already have Nero 6 Suite installed. Then you need to go to this link:
http://www.nero.com/en/update_nero6.php?pak=2 to download update package 2 which is 32MB. This update has Recode2 as part of it and will let you make the mp4 files with ease :D
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32MB!!!!!!! I might download that when I have broadband then, which will be soon.
LaGuNa
Hmm i installed both the latest nero and nerovision express, but i don't get the nero digital options :s

My Nero Recode 2 startup screen looks like this:

user posted image

Hope you can help me out with this..
Spawn
You need to enter a serialnumber for the Nero Digital plugin

Nero is a litle complicated - in that one has to enter serialnumber in every piece to get it all working.

If you start the Nero Smartstart - and select Nero productcenter button in the right corner - you will get a menu where you can enter serialnumbers for each part

dziga
Hi, I manage to convert and send videos to the K700i but the initial few seconds of the video don't play smoothly, then it kind of 'picks up' and starts to play smooth. Why is it so? Any ideas? Software problem?
clownfish
hi, can i ask a question?
i hav k500i currently... so wat video size/resolution shld i be going for?
thanx
LaGuNa
Ah thx Spawn figured it out now smile.gif
morlandz
Nice guide Spawn, your top banana for that one.
Whole episode of the simpsons ready for dinnertime at work
Sweet!! smile.gif
quecui
I have a question: When I use Nero Recode2, it's always false sad.gif
Here is log file:
09:37:37 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 1115
NeroDigital: Cancel

Burn settings:
Target: Hard disk folder
Number of copies: 1
Target folder: E:\@Quecui@\Nero Recode (9475084288 bytes free)
NeroDigital profile: Mobile
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: false

09:37:53 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 158
NeroDigital: init

09:37:53 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 269
NeroDigital: burning 3342 sectors (3342 required)

09:37:53 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 343
NeroDigital: beginning 1st-pass operation

09:37:53 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 697
NeroDigital: encode Con mai tim nhau

Source:
Size (352,240)
Display Aspect Ratio (352,240)
Deinterlace disabled
Cropping disabled
Resizing enabled (176,128)
Pixel ratio (1,1)
Bitrate: 129175 bps

09:37:53 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 722
Nth-pass file = D:\Temp\\Con mai tim nhaua04068.bin

ERROR in file:E:\Sources\Current\Recode 2.2\Nero Recode II\burning\../directshow/DSError.h, line:120, error:Unspecified error (0x80004005)
09:37:54 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 200
NeroDigital: exit
Spawn
From the logfile I would think its a problem with the directshowfilters installed on your computer. But its almost impossible to give a good answer - Videoencoding in general is a jungle - they all rely on configuration of directshowfilters installed. there are hundreds of filters out there and people tend to install all kinds of different filters for different stuff - and these filters very easy mess up depending on what is installed and in which order they were installed. The latest installed directshowfilter is ususally the default. First make sure you have the latest direct x, then find out what the original clip is encoded in and what filters is installed to play that clip. For instance is the original clip you try to convert an mpeg or an avi ? - is it an mpeg1 or mpeg2 or an avi compressed with xvid or divx or what ?
When playing the original clip - look under properties to see what type it is and which filters is used to play it.

Im sorry but without knowing how your computer is configured I cannot give a better answer.


quecui
Thanks Spawn :D
1. my clip is mpeg1, my computer already install directx 9c and i use klite codecs full install sad.gif
2. i have another question: my clip is 320x240 and it's have black border so i crop 64 pixel. -> resixe horixon total 104 pixel, is corect? But nero recode is resize clip to 160x128 not 176x144,why?
Thaks again 10.gif
Spawn
QUOTE(quecui @ Dec 27 2004, 06:44 AM)
Thanks Spawn :D
1. my clip is mpeg1, my computer already install directx 9c and i use klite codecs full install sad.gif
2. i have another question: my clip is 320x240 and it's have black border so i crop 64 pixel. -> resixe horixon total 104 pixel, is corect? But nero recode is resize clip to 160x128 not 176x144,why?
Thaks again  10.gif
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The crop looks ok - equation would be 240-64=176x1.21=212.96(214) and 320-214=106 - so if you crop total 64 pixels from top/buttom to remove black bars - then youd also crop total of 106 pixels from the sides - so your 104 pixels is pretty accurat and should be fine

If automatic is on in Nero - and it only resizes to 160x128 - then the bitrate may be set to low, if videobitrate is set below 129 then Nero automatically only resize to 160x128. You can either up the bitrate - or manually set Nero to 176x144. Either way is fine.

quecui
Good 10.gif
i set bitrate to 145.8 and it's ok
Thanks Spawn
Spawn
youre welcome smile.gif

Bitrate 145.8 is a bit high - but will propably play
I usually keep mine at 130 to avoid any stuttering - but hey, if it plays then just fine smile.gif
quecui
hey Spawn
i know but it's still little question: my clip play in k700 is have little black from right to left, i don't know why? because size is 176x144
Spawn
if you still see black bars in top and buttom - then you need to crop a litle more from the sides.

For instance for a 320x240 clip with 32 pixels black bars in top and buttom:

Crop 32 pixels from top
Crop 32 pixels from buttom then
Crop 54 pixels left side and
Crop 52 pixels right side

PS: Sometimes we have to leave a litle bit black bars in because otherwise we crop out to much of the video we want to encode. For instance if we have a clip in widescreen.
quecui
QUOTE(Spawn @ Dec 30 2004, 05:21 PM)
if you still see black bars in top and buttom - then you need to crop a litle more from the sides.

For instance for a 320x240 clip with 32 pixels black bars in top and buttom:

Crop 32 pixels from top
Crop 32 pixels from buttom then
Crop 54 pixels left side and
Crop 52 pixels right side

PS: Sometimes we have to leave a litle bit black bars in because otherwise we crop out to much of the video we want to encode. For instance if we have a clip in widescreen.
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No, i have a little black bar in left side and right side, in top and bottom is ok
Spawn
oh - thats odd.
Well if thats so, then you have cropped to much from the sides, and have to crop a litle bit less.

Clip is 320x240 - right ?
How much exactly do you crop from top ?
And how much exactly do you crop from buttom ?






Smashed_187
OK, i have problems encoding my Videos.....its 352x240 res, when i choose mobile-AVC as my profile i can easily change it into 176x144 resolution, but if i change it to Mobile profile i cant for the life of me get it to the right res....the same calculations i had for the AVC profile seem to come up short in the other.....am i just retarded or is something different between the two? wallbash.gif and congrats spawn, great walkthrough and everything.
Spawn
well - not sure what the problem is - but you cant use mobile-avc profile - it uses a different mp4 codec not supported by K700.

Using the normal mp4 mobile profile with a clip of 352x240 you have a couple of choices. Firstly aspekt ratio of 352x240 is 1.4666 and the screen of K700 is 1.21

You can either deside to crop of some pixels from the sides to get full screen playback with the same aspekt ratio. Or you could deside to not crop off to get all the video and then live with black bars in top and buttom.

First choice - cropping: you first calculate the new resolution 240x1.21 = 290
To find out how much to crop out: 352-290=62 pixels total from the sides.
In the cropsection simply crop 31 pixels left side and 31 pixels right side.
In the resizesection - if set to automatic and bitrate is set to 129 or above - it will now be 176x144. If bitrate is set below 129 then automatic will set resolution to 160x128 and you then need to uncheck automatic, check custom resize and manually enter 176x144 for resolution.

Second choice - no cropping: simply uncheck automatic, check custom resize and set resolution to 176x144 manually.

Both situations - remember to keep Letterboxing checked.
Smashed_187
Thanks mate, i got sick of playing around with it, so i just worked it out the way i did it with the mobile -avc Profile and forced it at 176x144 res, works perfect clap.gif Since i had already worked out the sizes right, it works well, as i said before, great tutorial, i doubt i would have ever got there on my own notworthy.gif notworthy.gif and its a relief to know im not a retard, heh.

Oh, and im kinda getting desperate for room on my phone, what bitrate would be a good compromise between Size and Quality? im talking about trying to get 2.3 min vids (Red Vs Blue mainly) down to 2 megs.....i think im asking the impossible, but it never hurts to try...thanks
kingsimz
so hold on.... hwo do i get to the recodin menu?
Spawn
#Smashed_187

Lower videobitrate to something between 60-70 kbits and it will still be watchable. Remember to force resolution 176x144 as automatic settings changes resolution to smaller the lower bitrate you choose.
To lower filesize further - you could also lower audiosettings - especially if you dont need high quality sound (ie. when its not a musicvideo) - default is 40 kbits 22050 hz - you could lower it to 24 kbits 16000 hz and it would still be better than AMR audio.


#kingsimz

I dont understand the question - try looking in the guide.
If your Nero does not look like in my guide - then it has not been registered correctly. you need to register a serialnumber in Nero for every component.
kingsimz
oh i c, thnkx mate!
Kaworu

Uhh... I have just download it, but when I click the program, it said :"Your demo vesion has expired"

sad.gif
Spawn
well - cant help you there :-/

sexmachine_1989@hotmail.com
why i can't seem to adjust the video quality.. an1 noes can tel me?? thanks in advance.. anw i usin e nero recode 2 currently
sexmachine_1989@hotmail.com
thanks anw i notice y i went wrong(4get to uncheck).. anw dis forum is real great.. i had been searchin 4 mp4 converter 4 so long until i found dis web.. thanks alot
Haxxxess
Awesone guide... Im encoding the video right now... lets see if it works
Haxxxess
Thanks it works!!
sexmachine_1989@hotmail.com
i would lyk to ask why when i want to convert to mp4 usin e nero recoder 2, the resolution is 176*128 and i can't seem to change it by custom.. oso i already set e bitrate to 130 liao.. when i type the no 176, then when clickin in another box to type 144 it wil auto turn 0 for both.. funny.. i really need help.. thanks alot..
Spawn
QUOTE(sexmachine_1989@hotmail.com @ Jan 24 2005, 01:10 PM)
i would lyk to ask why when i want to convert to mp4 usin e nero recoder 2, the resolution is 176*128 and i can't seem to change it by custom.. oso i already set e bitrate to 130 liao.. when i type the no 176, then when clickin in another box to type 144 it wil auto turn 0 for both.. funny.. i really need help.. thanks alot..
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unfortunately thats a softwarebug in the latest version of Nero Recode - that and a fps of 25 instead of 15.

Me and some others have rolled back to the version before this one - it can be difficult to find the previous version though as only the newest is on Nero FTP for download. :-(

Im sure they will fix it in the next version

sexmachine_1989@hotmail.com
oic.. thanks alot..
Spawn
new version fixing these errors are now available from Nero.com smile.gif
fixpzs
Why i cant change video quality(kbps) to nero recode 2.It is always on 400 Kbps.
Spawn
you need to uncheck the "fit to target" option
fixpzs
Thank you Spawn!! U r THE MAN!!!!!
FIFA
Cheers Spawn! Respect to ya! your website was excellent! Very good!


Thanks Heaps!
sjokkel
Thx. I was wondering how to do this in Nero. I used the IMTOO 3GP tool for recoding some movies but i can't seem to get the nice quality of the demo movie in the SE K750i
adonisdemon
which settings are you using?
sjokkel
The settings seem to be locked or at least i can't find a way to unlock them in IMTOO 3GP. surrender.gif
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