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Pasco
Maybe a sensetive subject to some, but why is there so many nude-themes? What's so special about them, so that so many people acutally sits down and makes heaps and heaps of them?

Ok, I understand the nude part, but on your phone?
How cool is it to show off your ultracool new phone to friends and family with Carmen Electra giving it all up all over it??
Ask yourself; how many times have you not looked at other peoples phones at public places? In the subway, at a resturant or just someone you're passing in the street? What label do you automatically give that person who has a nude girl on their phone (becuse you do label them, whether you like it or not..we all do) compared to someone who has Winnie the pooh or a car as a wallpaper.

Now, many of you think that you actually dont care what theme or wallpaper some unknown person has on their phone. Absolutly, but we're all still giving them a label in some way

Sure, nudity can be beautiful, In an artgallery or a photoexibit, but in a highly compressed JPG with a networklabel plasterd all over her forehead and the time and date at her kneecaps?..It's more like a desperate attempt to get portable p*rn, than a good looking theme that completes the phone in a nice fashion. (I'm aware that there are goodlooking themes out there with nudity, but they are rather few)

There are so many other great things that can be themed, so why is there a majority of nude-themes?

I'm not on a crusade against nude-themes..
It's just something I came to think of and wanted to discuss. gathering.gif

(and It has nothing to do with barrons16 thread about sexy ladies, I wrote this offline and noticed his topic just now.. )

Have a great day!!
/Pasco
mr g
i have pics of women on my phone cos i love women,simple.
i prefer a women on my phone any day of the week then a car or a cartoon character,each to there own,different horse's for different course's.
samir_madan
I do find it awkward and rubbish if someone has p*** theme in his cell. thumbdown.gif

It gives a pretty immature and ugly impression to others 'bout oneself.

If u r inspired and impressed with women (in any form) then it's certainly not the right way to show ur respect and gratitude. thumbdown.gif

I do personally believe in the POWER OF WOMEN. I'd be more then impressed if i found someone with wallpaper or theme of, say, Mother Teressa in his mobile. Even Christina Agulira or Britney is OK. But nudity, naaah.

But i don't mind. Though, I've never even downloaded any p*** theme. I swear. smile.gif
elton
I agree with Pascoe in all his comments,but at the end of the day,everyone is free to use whatever they like on their phone (its not for me tho).

The main reason why there are so many themes made using n**** women is simply for the huge downloads they generate,and as pascoe said they are mostly just pictures pasted onto the idle screen,hardly a 'Theme'.

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jonte
I think the nude "themes" suck. They are just crap. Make something real instead, some nice looking theme. Anybody can make those crappy so called themes by just inserting a p***o picture into their editor.

Stop it now!
samir_madan
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simply for the huge downloads they generate



Very true. Infact, I believe, More then 60% of the internet traffic is flooded with nothing but request for p*** sites, and stuff like that.

But then again, it's a matter of personal choice. and i believe no one can influence other's decision and liking.
Vlammetje
Well said pasco. i too have always wondered why there are so many nude ladies themes out there.... especially so sine I do not know a singele man (or woman for that matter) that actually uses those blink.gif

Personally I could care less what people have in their phone, but in my line of work our operations management is also equipped with phones and they would do wise not to have any nudity displayed when taking a call or chatiing with a custmomer. thumbdown.gif


QUOTE(mr g @ Oct 26 2004, 04:15 PM)
i have pics of women on my phone cos i love women,simple.
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Do you ever get any responses from the real women in your environment? What do they say?


QUOTE(samir_madan @ Oct 26 2004, 06:04 PM)
If u r inspired and impressed with women (in any form) then it's certainly not the right way to show ur respect and gratitude. thumbdown.gif

I do personally believe in the POWER OF WOMEN.
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That's a vey nice way of putting things.


QUOTE(jonte @ Oct 26 2004, 07:49 PM)
I think the nude "themes" suck. They are just crap.
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Like any theme, a theme containing nudity can be done with a great deal of effort, good eye for detail and can actually have a grat result. Shame most nudity themes appear not to have been made with all that much attention or effort sad.gif


Well I spent some time thinking about this and I do think that for me personally, and bear in mind I have nothing against p**n in the privacy of our own house, I think a guy with a nude woman as his phone wallpaper would be a major turn off for me. Basically because I don't see the need to carry a nude woman around with you everywhere you go.

I do wonder why there are so many nude ladies themes... apparently all downloading really well...... while there are not quite so many nude mens themes..... and I personally cannot think of any reason to download a nude guy to my phone at all....... but back to my question: why do men seem more likely to carry explicit material around then women? blink.gif
mr g
May i point out that the themes i have including women are NOT p*** pics and are NOT offensive to women,lighten up they are just pics on phones.
Vlammetje
the topic of discussion is 'nude themes' mate so I think your earlier post suggested you were replying to that specific topic.
Pasco
QUOTE(mr g @ Oct 26 2004, 09:54 PM)
May i point out that the themes i have including women are NOT p*** pics and are NOT offensive to women,lighten up they are just pics on phones.
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Hey, don't take It so personal dude. cheers.gif We're all friends here.. smile.gif
As Vlammetje said, the topic is about nudity in themes, not p*rn. There's a big difference you know.

QUOTE(mr g @ Oct 26 2004, 03:15 PM)
i have pics of women on my phone cos i love women,simple.
i prefer a women on my phone any day of the week then a car or a cartoon character,each to there own,different horse's for different course's.
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...and that's totally okidoki...It's your phone and you're free to do whatever you want with it. You're not a bad guy for having nude-themes on your phone. I'm quite sure you have loads of great qualitys.
The question at hand was why there's a majority of nude-themes out there.

QUOTE(samir_madan @ Oct 26 2004, 07:43 PM)
But then again, it's a matter of personal choice. and i believe no one can influence other's decision and liking.
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Totally agree...

QUOTE(Vlammetje @ Oct 26 2004, 08:00 PM)
QUOTE(mr g @ Oct 26 2004, 04:15 PM)
i have pics of women on my phone cos i love women,simple.
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Do you ever get any responses from the real women in your environment? What do they say?


Yeah, what do they say? smile.gif

QUOTE(Vlammetje @ Oct 26 2004, 08:00 PM)
.... but back to my question: why do men seem more likely to carry explicit material around then women? blink.gif


That's a really good question. I guess It's just a "guy thing"...that falls in the same category as not putting the seat down when we're done in the bathroom..or leaving dirty underwear at the bedroomfloor.. rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Let's try to keep this a civilised discussion..ok?
I didn't start It to point finger at someone and call them "bad", just because they happens to like (or dislike) nudity. It was just a thought poping thru my head about why there's so much of this kind of themes..

Maybe I should download some nude-themes and show them to friends and co-workers, just to see how they respond.

I just love "testing" people around me (IRL) and watch how they react.
Please note that I only do this when I have a real purpose for doing it and of course I'll explain to them afterwards what It's all about. I would never let things go out of hand. The human mind is a fragile thing and should not be played with..
I do this almost on a daily basis as It's a part of what I do for a living, testing people, observing their facial and emotional response, taking notes and implementing the conclusions into my designs. ..oh...this is so totally off topic...sorry about that.. smile.gif

Good night to you all...

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baseballdad
It's a free country, while I don't have any cause my son always use my phone I don't care if anyone have it or not.
beano
I don't really like nude themes, but if they suit you fine. You can do what you want to your own private phone, and I find it flattering the men like women so much - unfortunately, most women don't really find it a compliment when you have some perfect sexy model n**** on your phone.

As for a phone that is to be used for your job (whether your's or your companies), I think that anyone who would have a nude theme/wallpaper on their phone would be putting on a huge display of unprofessionalism (unless of course your job deals with nudey models or the like).

In addition to my opinion mentioned above, I am not a woman who would even have a n**** man on my phone, but that's just me.

I actually find it quite embarrassing when I'm searching for themes for my phone, say when I have a break at uni, and all I get is a page full of n**** photos - then everyone thinks you are looking at p***. I think that if there are going to be nude themes and wallpapers, then they should be in a passworded folder, like they used to be. At least then, you couldn't accidently stumble across them if you didn't want to.

***EDIT - why is N-a-k-e-d a censored word? That's a bit overboard isn't it?***
mr g
lookin at the phones of the people who say there are too many nude themes,its looks like this is a sony erriccson theme maker problem dont you think?
as an owner of a nokia6600 we dont see as many themes as you lot,as i sometimes take a look at the SE themes and there seems to be so much more made,and most of em are of women(i'll even admit that).
see the problem with 6600 themes is that there are too many of cartoon characters and cars,which is fine but its got to a point now where sometimes all the themes that are updated overnight,the 6600 user will get 5-8 themes(on a good day) and 4/5 of them will be of a cartoon,1 or 2 of cars and 1 of some abstract art.
maybe i should get a SE phone byebye.gif

Also,maybe this topic should be moved to the SE thememaking forum as everyone crittiscising the nude themes have a SE PHONE
mr g
Also when a women do see my phone and i have a pic of a women on it(not p***,maybe half n****) i just get this reaction rolleyes.gif
elton
I would say there were just as many nude 6600 themes as SE themes (If not more),
Symbian themes.com had to be closed for using too much bandwidth,and i can 100% guarantee that if 70% of the themes on it were NOT adult themes then this would not have happened.
The trouble is,it seems that these people (the nude theme makers,and the downloaders) dont seem to realise they can just set a picture of their choice to ANY theme as its wallpaper,and seeing as 99% of adult themes are Really not themes at all,just simply a different idle picture then making them in the first place is just a complete waste of time.
Instead they bombard sites with all this carp that most of us dont want to see,and then cause it to shut down which is a great shame. byebye.gif
Vlammetje
QUOTE(mr g @ Oct 27 2004, 11:45 AM)
Also,maybe this topic should be moved to the SE thememaking forum as everyone crittiscising the nude themes have a SE PHONE
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I don't know what it is you're trying to say or imply here... perhaps you should elaborate a bit blink.gif

Feel free to ignore the fact that out of all manufacturers, SE has the largest number of phones that support themes. This must be absolutely irrelevant to your statement.


Now... back to the topic: why nudity on ones phones? I still don't have the answer tbh tongue.gif
Gotta say I agree with beano... it's all nice and cool to show your coworkers and friends that you do themes and where they are, but when you open the gallery and see 5 nude themes they might not be so interested. unsure.gif
mr g
[quote=Vlammetje,Oct 27 2004, 11:25 AM]
[quote=mr g,Oct 27 2004, 11:45 AM]Also,maybe this topic should be moved to the SE thememaking forum as everyone crittiscising the nude themes have a SE PHONE
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I don't know what it is you're trying to say or imply here... perhaps you should elaborate a bit blink.gif

What i'm trying to say is,you all have SE phones,so obviously your all looking at the SE themes,so should'nt it be in the SE section,if it was then i wouldnt of seen it and we would'nt of had this lovely little conversation!
adonisdemon
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What i'm trying to say is,you all have SE phones,so obviously your all looking at the SE themes,so should'nt it be in the SE section,if it was then i wouldnt of seen it and we would'nt of had this lovely little conversation!

the topic is dicussing nude themes in general, hence why it's in the themeing chat, people may have SE phones and be talking about them, but it's a general chat on nude themes in the end.

now back to the debate haha.gif
mr g
ok fair point mr demon.
anyway,i like themes featuring lovely young ladies and i dont care what anyone thinks clap.gif
Zleepy
@Pasco
Great tread!
I've made comments on this matter far too many times on these boards but never bothered with an entire tread since it seemed to me that people was generally very into these themes.
As it seems when reading this tread it might not actually be that popular at all.

A few of my own thoughts are.
If I'm at a pub and some guy starts talking to me and waving his cellphone around and I see that he's got a p0rn, n**** or semi-n**** girl theme on there I totally lose respect for this person and will stop talking to him.
It's not about enjoying females, it's about respect.
And what point does a person want to make by using such a theme?
Probably the theme is chosen to make a reflection of one self. I know that's how I pick my themes.
You're not saying that you like women by using a theme like that.
What you are saying is that this is what you want, this is my standard and I control this.
For any female seeing this she knows that if she doesn't look like this n**** she's not fully accepted.
Why must your personal sexual preferences be broadcasted like that?
And do you need to be reminded every time you look at your phone what your sexual preferences are?
Doesn't it get boring?
Personally I keep my fantasies and female preferences in my head. That way I don't tell anyone they are not good enough for me and I don't limit myself or what excites me.

I'm certainly no prude, this is just my personal opinion. It's just damn tacky. And to get it straight I find it just as tacky when a woman has a "sexy male" theme.

Now, if someone wants to use these themes or make them that's 100% fine with me. Feel free and go ahead, I'm just presenting my opinion here.

PS. the you used in my tread isn't anyone particular that wrote in this tread.
mr g
you wont talk to someone because of the pic on they're phone,do me a favour.
you say its about respect,its a bloody picture.
so if i have a pic on my phone of a half n**** women i dont respect my girlfriend of five years,bulls***.
elton
Mr G,

You are taking this personally,its good that you are sticking up for yourself but it really isnt meant to be a dig at you.
This thread was started by pascoe to voice his opinion and get the opinion of others on this rather touchy (it seems) subject.
There are plenty of people around that share your view on these type of themes (hence the huge downloads) so they are either...........

A:Not talking here
B:Wont admit it to themselves

The reason it seems you are fighting this 'Battle??' on your own in here,is simply because the people talking are skilled theme makers and/or generally respectable people. byebye.gif
samir_madan
CHILL GUYS, PLS. DON'T TAKE ANYONE'S COMMENTS PERSONALLY. AFTERALL WE'RE PART OF SAME FORUM AND IT'S JUST A KINDA OPIONION POLL ONLY!!!!

(Though, it's a hot and burning issue and is inviting the attention of everyone, spreading like forest-fire) wow.gif
mr g
Sounds like i'm not just sticking up 4 myself,but 4 a lot of thememakers who have they're tails between they're legs,p****'S.
Zleepy
QUOTE(mr g @ Oct 27 2004, 05:10 PM)
you wont talk to someone because of the pic on they're phone,do me a favour.
you say its about respect,its a bloody picture.
so if i have a pic on my phone of a half n**** women i dont respect my girlfriend of five years,bulls***.
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As others have stated there's no need to take it personally.
And again it's clear that one has to be very obvious when trying to explain something around here.

In a pub you meet a whole lot of people you don't know. It's a place for quick conversation and not much more. I didn't say I thought this person was an idiot. My point was that with a theme like this you are saying something about yourself and who you are. And if the first thing I get fromthis guy is a theme with a n**** woman on I'm chose to move along. He has shown to me that we don't view the world the same way and there's a very small chance I would have anything in common with this guy.

To you it's a picture yes. But for others it might be very disrespectful for different reasons. I'm sure you feel that you respect your girlfriend and she probably does to. But to me that's disrespectful and I don't see why a person would have such a theme if that person really loved it's partner and felt everything was great.

I've had this discussion with my sister's boyfriend which I feel is very disrespectful by having posters of n**** women on the wall of the apartment they share. He can't see what's wrong with it and says that she doesn't mind.
But I happen to know that she does mind, he just doesn't notice it and she doesn't want to boss him.

But that's of topic.
The topic is WHY? there's so much of these themes.
Spawn
Hot topic smile.gif

I gotta say Im a litle torn between opinions on this subject.

On one hand I agree to some extent with those that speaks against nuditiy themes - on the other I dont really see the big problem.

I dont see anything wrong in showing something beautifull - as long as it is done tastefull.
I mean - look at famous art - paintings from famous painters portraying nude bodys are being sold for millions. I doubt anyone would disrespect me for having an authentic VanGogh I payed a fortune for, even if it did show some skin.
And arent we all living in a world were looks for some stupid reason are being put on a piedestal higher than brains most of the time ? This goes for every aspect in life, moviestars, tv announcers, representatives, advertising, and so on. You cant mention a single aspect of life today where looks dont make a difference in some way. Peoples choice of partner - sure we all agree officially that its whats under the skin that matters - but what do we base our first impression on ? And isnt it only in stupid hollywood movies that the ugliest boys gets the prettiest girls - and vice verca ? (unless the ugliest boy happen to be extremely welthy)
Every where we look - its all around us - pretty people are idolised for their looks.
I could go on for days with examples on how idiotic the world and all of us behave on this subject but I think you got the picture.

Sure its disrespectfull to your girlfriend if you hang centerfolds on your wall - but when she drags you to the musem to see some famous half-erotic art - its somehow all ok and not perceived as disrespectfull to the female gender.

And what about the diffence in how we perceive peoples behavior based on gender - if men have a drink on a stripbar, they are dirty old men, but when women in thousands acts completely brainless at a Chippendale Show its different - I mean have anyone seen how women behave at these shows ?
The general consensus is allways that men are the narrowminded gender - but in real life women arent any better at all - statistics clearly show that for instance unfaithfullnes are more common amongst women than amongst men - only difference between men and women are that men are more direct and downright stupid and talk about it - where women are much better at being discrete.

Women are as much infatuated by Brad Pitt or David Becham as men are by Pamela Andersson or whomever. I dont go for that old idea that men are these dirty bastards and women are these fragile inoccent beings that needs to be wrapped in cutton. Oh no - women are the stronger gender - make no mistake about that wink.gif

Point Im trying to make in this strange way
- is that I dont nescesarily find it disrespectfull to the female gender to have a theme portraying something that is persieved as beautifull - and has been throughtout time in litteratur and art in all cultures around the world etc . - and I dont think having a nudetheme on a phone says anything about that person at all.
Its more about how its done - how its presented. It can be presented tastefull and beautifull honoring the wonderfull creatures that women (or men) are - and it can be presented dirty or untastefull. If I have a girlfriend/wife and plaster my phone with bare titties etc. I would naturally call it untastefull and disrespectfull to her - but if some single guy has a litle nudy theme done with taste on his phone or if some singlegirl have a topless Brad Pitt theme - I dont see any disrespectfullness or any major problems in that.

Dont be afraid to comment on all my nonsense - but rest assured that I will take it personal laugh.gif
mr g
Excellent comments spawn,great minds think alike as they say!
maampia
You want comments Spawn? Here is my comment...

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Oh no - women are the stronger gender - make no mistake about that!

Ohhh I totally agree 100%!!! laugh.gif

Okey back to topic... laugh.gif
Spawn
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Vlammetje
Having a nude or semi nude theme may or may not be disrespectful. i for one, speaking for myself, would definitely not be pleased if my guy had a nude or semi nude image of another woman on his phone. No matter if this other woman is a model or star or angelina jolie or anybody, bottom line is: nude other woman is NOT my idea of respect. Just like i don't go around with images of nude men.
So maybe I am a prude then... I don't care. I would not be happy with it.

Question for mr G, as you do seem to take the topic somewhat personal: if you GF of 5 years were to have a nude guy on her phone to look at, how would you react to that? smile.gif

I do agree that a tastefully doen theme on a semi nude model may be very beautiful. Unfortunately I find most such themes LACK taste. This is of course a personal opinion but I see great differences in a Rubens painting (for example) or a good erotic Playboy shoot when compared to the sort of tacky images that we also see and that do seem to generate downloads as well. There is a market for those apparently.

I also see a diiference, spawn, in going to a museum together, watching a p**n flick together or having a n**** model in one's phone. My phone is not for shared entertainment, nor is my guys phone. See the difference?
augustborn99
my .02 cents:

-note: there is a difference between p***ography and nudity.

*p***ography on telephone: is a reflection of an individual's values. frankly, someone who i wouldnt care to meet.

*nudity on phone: if a theme is tastefuly done, i dont see why not. artists are not condemned if they showcase the body on their medium. why should themers be any different? they just have a different canvas.

-where i stand on the matter: i have NEVER made a single nude theme, and never will. i dont forsee my phone wearing a nudity thm as well, out of respect to my wife.
Spawn
#Vlam and August

I totally agree smile.gif
mr g
QUOTE(Vlammetje @ Oct 31 2004, 02:15 PM)
Having a nude or semi nude theme may or may not be disrespectful. i for one, speaking for myself, would definitely not be pleased if my guy had a nude or semi nude image of another woman on his phone. No matter if this other woman is a model or star or angelina jolie or anybody, bottom line is: nude other woman is NOT my idea of respect. Just like i don't go around with images of nude men.
So maybe I am a prude then... I don't care. I would not be happy with it.

Question for mr G, as you do seem to take the topic somewhat personal: if you GF of 5 years were to have a nude guy on her phone to look at, how would you react to that? smile.gif

I do agree that a tastefully doen theme on a semi nude model may be very beautiful. Unfortunately I find most such themes LACK taste. This is of course a personal opinion but I see great differences in a Rubens painting (for example) or a good erotic Playboy shoot when compared to the sort of tacky images that we also see and that do seem to generate downloads as well. There is a market for those apparently.

I also see a diiference, spawn, in going to a museum together, watching a p**n flick together or having a n**** model in one's phone. My phone is not for shared entertainment, nor is my guys phone. See the difference?
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if my girlfriend had a picture of a nude man on her phone i'd kill her.............only joking,i really could'nt care less to be honest,it's not like she's gonna hunt down the geezer in the pic and declare her undieing love for him.its a pic of someone she will probably never even meet,same goes for me and my themes (even though i have met jordan)
i'll say it again though,i'd much rather a pic(tasteful not p***) of a women on my phone then a car,winnie the pooh you get my drift.i do have other themes ya know.
i have about 85 themes on my mmc card of many styles and about 15-20 of them are of women,the rest are of football,abstract arty sort of pics,films,techy sort've stuff,so i'm not totally obsessed with women(yet)
J-man
Man Oh Man I have read this thread over and over and I guess it is time that mix in this discussion. Seeing as I am one of the few that makes only walls for the P900 of woman.

As you can see in my walls and in the thread New Asian wallpapers I have never ever really used nudity or p***ografic walls. Simple because I dont like it and I dont even would want to make a wall like that. Because it is nothing we all havent already seen. I try to be creative with the pictures of woman and touch it up here and there and use or make a nice background with it.

It is the same thing as playboy is very nice pictures and nudity untill a certain degree. And the Hustler wich is all out and not something I would like to see or respect.

The line here and for myself is s-e-x-y and beatifull but not nudity or p***. Leave something for the imagination. I have done some nice walls in the past for this site and most of the people here give me positive comments on it. And too be really honest you can do so much more creative stuff with pictures that is NOT n**** then when they are.

And then the Girlfriend part. I actually have a fiancee and she even sometimes helps me with my walls. Saying oh but that colour doesn;t go with that background can't you change into that and that colour. Or no her eyes are not right etc etc. So we both have great fun and she know from me that she is the only one I love no matter what next asian babe wall i am making. Well thats all folks and happy discusion because this is a topic that is never going to end. Cheers
beano
these posts are sooooo long - I wish I was a better reader... I'll just ad another two cents here.

Whether you approve of "these" themes on your phone or other peoples phones probably depends a lot on your culture. Think about it. What one culture thinks is disrespectful, might seem perfectly respectful and honouring in another culture. We can look in and see what we think is bad, but unless you are a part of that culture, you don't have a clue.
wintot
watch out for my nude themes............eherm....... artworks..

nice topic btw............... 10.gif Everyone seems to be involved......

I go for the DO'S.............. grouphug.gif
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