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shaon007009
QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 10 2010, 04:10 PM) *
Well its a endless issue with no result because all are not be satisfied but I just want one thing that the judges should comment on each and every theme and they tell us about our plus and minuses and what the reasons are that they choose winners theme as winner and not our's .
I also think that we should run a number system by our respected judges from 1-100 and they marked our theme between them. With this system we can easily understand our mistakes and also we can see our progress . And our TMC or STC not so boring for beginners .
Please every themer should give comment that they like my idea or not . byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif


This Is A Good Idea... I support It....

@ noahsarc... OK Bro.. I Give Up.... And Finally If There Is Nothing Less Than This TMC I'll Totally Support You.. I Mean The Learning Process.. If It OK Than I've No Problem With Your Idea.... I'll Go With You... So I Quiet Of This Discussion For Now.... byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif
thabull
QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 10 2010, 02:51 PM) *
only one question to thabull then how will the beginners know about that they are going in right way or not when they always got 1 point ??????


the answer is so simple my dear friend asthegr. u know by yourself when u become a better themer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i guess u haven't read my post carefully......

according to who's opinion "they are going in right way" ? everything in these contests is subjective!!!!!!!!!!!!
i repeat every week we have different judges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyway, some kind of evidence for anybody's improvement could be the public votes........ and don't tell me there is no classification there.......

and something more...... is it so important to be separated (not just u, anybody.....) from all the "1"? can't u (again, not just u, anybody.....) tell the difference between the "1" in each contest?

is it that different 13 from 23 (in a scale of 100) when u need 85 or more to get to the podium? and lets say that one week u get 34 and i get 16. and the next u get 18 and i get 29. what do u make of that? u became worst themer in a week? who's better themer between us?
i don't c any point in all of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i repeat again...... enjoy all the fun, the communication, the friendship u can get here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is the meaning of M9!!!!!!!!!!!!!
asthegr8
QUOTE (shaon007009 @ Mar 10 2010, 06:11 AM) *
QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 10 2010, 04:10 PM) *
Well its a endless issue with no result because all are not be satisfied but I just want one thing that the judges should comment on each and every theme and they tell us about our plus and minuses and what the reasons are that they choose winners theme as winner and not our's .
I also think that we should run a number system by our respected judges from 1-100 and they marked our theme between them. With this system we can easily understand our mistakes and also we can see our progress . And our TMC or STC not so boring for beginners .
Please every themer should give comment that they like my idea or not . byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif


This Is A Good Idea... I support It....

@ noahsarc... OK Bro.. I Give Up.... And Finally If There Is Nothing Less Than This TMC I'll Totally Support You.. I Mean The Learning Process.. If It OK Than I've No Problem With Your Idea.... I'll Go With You... So I Quiet Of This Discussion For Now.... byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif

thanks for supporting my idea byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif
noahsarc
@ Thabull
OKai i agree with you, we should enjoy all the fun, the communication & the friendship here. But there is a TMC here, as you know it well, & all join this competition only to know whether this time they had improved or not from the previous time.

As you said that its us who should decide whether we are going in a right path or not, well in that case i think my theme wasn't the best but still it should have won few more votes, but when the results are declared its the same "1" point again, According to me i had improved but according to the votes I'm still at the same position. Now you tell me what I should do?

Now I'm in the dilemma whether i have improved or i have not. If my point fall down to "0" I can think ok this time i made a mess, and if my points increases, I can think ok i have improved a bit now. But when I'm constantly at the same position getting only 1 point all the time, what I will conclude from it?

Well regarding this discussion and after reading all the views, i had decided that from now onwards i'll make a theme on the topic given but i'll not enter in the contest so as to get 1 vote again and enter in the dilemma.
p.snp
QUOTE (noahsarc @ Mar 10 2010, 11:15 PM) *
@ Thabull
OKai i agree with you, we should enjoy all the fun, the communication & the friendship here. But there is a TMC here, as you know it well, & all join this competition only to know whether this time they had improved or not from the previous time.

As you said that its us who should decide whether we are going in a right path or not, well in that case i think my theme wasn't the best but still it should have won few more votes, but when the results are declared its the same "1" point again, According to me i had improved but according to the votes I'm still at the same position. Now you tell me what I should do?

Now I'm in the dilemma whether i have improved or i have not. If my point fall down to "0" I can think ok this time i made a mess, and if my points increases, I can think ok i have improved a bit now. But when I'm constantly at the same position getting only 1 point all the time, what I will conclude from it?

Well regarding this discussion and after reading all the views, i had decided that from now onwards i'll make a theme on the topic given but i'll not enter in the contest so as to get 1 vote again and enter in the dilemma.



i think if no.of voting increase all the problem will solve......................
thabull
@noahsarc

my dear friend i just wonder. 1 contest entry and 24 uploads (some of them ringtones) and already grungy about TMC?
u haven't even tasted it yet....... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

@everybody..... (who may feel the need to answer to my points) please read carefully at the total of my posts.....
don't be stuck only in the "1" that somepeople may get each week

AND PLEASE ANSWER ME ONE MORE QUESTION.....
i got my own personal style........ in TMC each week all i get is "1" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but with the same style of theming in STC i already have won 3 gold trophies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TELL ME how the earth the voting in TMC will show my improvement? different judges each week, different judges in each contest, different opponents in each contsest.........

the point system of these contests is to determine only the winners. it doesn't matter what we get as points........

Points don't get u better themers. PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u can't trust a subjective pointing system to show u if u have improved or not.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and ofcourse u can't be improved one week, the next to be worst and the next to be reimproved..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
poiniting system is just a valuation of your exact theme at the exact time and NOT OF YOUR SKILLS OR QUALITY AS A THEMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

these are my last words on this issue guys.... i believe i have made my point as clear as i can. i can't make it clearer.
what i'm saying is that u should NOT BE DISSAPOINTED!!!!!!!!!! that's all
noahsarc
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 10 2010, 03:15 PM) *
@noahsarc

my dear friend i just wonder. 1 contest entry and 24 uploads (some of them ringtones) and already grungy about TMC?
u haven't even tasted it yet....... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Firstly i really feel pity on you that you have such a cheap mentality.

And secondly instead of LOLing on me it will be better for you if you answer my question? Or should i think you don't have any answer . You are just stuck in your own theory that we should not bother about points and votes. But if we should not then this TMC should be closed for ever then no one will be bothered on anything, and all will enjoy making theme, but if you can't close it then stop talking about it like this. if you are not bothered about this then we have nothing to do with it but we are bothered that's why i had posted in this thread.

Whatever i said is not only my views many people here have the same view. And I'm not a fool to enter in such discussions and argue with someone unnecessarily.
kewlone
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 9 2010, 01:41 PM) *
first of all a big congratulation to the winners and all participants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm sorry that findgirl's Bullfight didn't win, but this is what happens when u try to kill a Bull!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

i noticed that there is a "virous" of complaint that goes around M9. first STC, now TMC (i hope that RC will be untouched.. laugh.gif laugh.gif )

i don't understand all that "gold rush" people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why is this happening? does a gold medal or a podium mean that much?

i say "STOP VOTING" take these contests and make them festivals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no voting, no points, no podiums -------- no complaints NO PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and perhaps no themes..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif )


laugh.gif laugh.gif gold rush to crush gathering.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif you found a shortcut Alex laugh.gif laugh.gif wow.gif Have patience all, work more hard , weightlift.gif

oooops Naina , didnt see your last post surrender.gif
findgirl45
QUOTE (kewlone @ Mar 11 2010, 10:41 AM) *
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 9 2010, 01:41 PM) *
first of all a big congratulation to the winners and all participants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm sorry that findgirl's Bullfight didn't win, but this is what happens when u try to kill a Bull!!!!!!!!!!!

i noticed that there is a "virous" of complaint that goes around M9. first STC, now TMC (i hope that RC will be untouched.. )

i don't understand all that "gold rush" people!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why is this happening? does a gold medal or a podium mean that much?

i say "STOP VOTING" take these contests and make them festivals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no voting, no points, no podiums -------- no complaints NO PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and perhaps no themes..... )


laugh.gif laugh.gif gold rush to crush gathering.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif you found a shortcut Alex laugh.gif laugh.gif wow.gif Have patience all, work more hard , weightlift.gif

oooops Naina , didnt see your last post surrender.gif


oh enna sis so ur back in our fight laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
thabull
just to enable notifications for this thread........
le_figaroo
hi all clap.gif byebye.gif
asthegr8
@thabull and noahsarc don't argue with each other so cheaply that everyone feels that you both are fighting .
@thabull I wanna tell you that everyone has a right to express his feelings and to complaint if he feels something is going wrong around him .
@all we are not saying that the judges decision is totally wrong . we are just trying to say that we come here to learn to making great themes like thabull(haha I am just a big fan of you and sam and steff) and to be a part a healthy competition where we can learn every thing about themeing in a sporty way .
A great themer don't need any comment for what he create cause he knows everything about theming and he has his own style but for the beginners we require help in each and every step .
@ Admin.If any issue ends with no result then it will always in our mind and this issue is coming again and again so the admin.must take some decision about it and create a better atmosphere for a healthy competition .
@all please give some comment about this issue so admins.can see that what all want? byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif
thabull
QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM) *
@thabull and noahsarc don't argue with each other so cheaply that everyone feels that you both are fighting .
@thabull I wanna tell you that everyone has a right to express his feelings and to complaint if he feels something is going wrong around him .


nobody is fighting my dear friend asthegr. we just both expressing our opinions.... and "cheply" is a very heavy word to say.... perhaps it's cheaply for u, but there is no need to offend us..... at least we don't.....

and of course everybody has the right to express his feelings..... sorry for perhaps being hursh, but it's getting tiring to read each week the same complaints.....

QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM) *
A great themer don't need any comment for what he create cause he knows everything about theming and he has his own style but for the beginners we require help in each and every step .


u r wrong about this..... everybody needs the feedback in order to become better. u should know that the "enemy" of "good" is the "better".....
i don't think anybody refused to help (in the terms that their activities and real life permit....). i personally had all the help i needed.....

QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM) *
@ Admin.If any issue ends with no result then it will always in our mind and this issue is coming again and again so the admin.must take some decision about it and create a better atmosphere for a healthy competition .
@all please give some comment about this issue so admins.can see that what all want? byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif


totaly agree with u on that!!!!!!!!! even if the solution is no changes, there should be one, so we stop bubling over the same thing and get back to our main work... theme, wall, ring making......
asthegr8
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 11 2010, 10:29 AM) *
QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM) *
@thabull and noahsarc don't argue with each other so cheaply that everyone feels that you both are fighting .
@thabull I wanna tell you that everyone has a right to express his feelings and to complaint if he feels something is going wrong around him .


nobody is fighting my dear friend asthegr. we just both expressing our opinions.... and "cheply" is a very heavy word to say.... perhaps it's cheaply for u, but there is no need to offend us..... at least we don't.....

sorry my english is not so well so if i use wrong word please forgive me i never mean that....

QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM) *
@ Admin.If any issue ends with no result then it will always in our mind and this issue is coming again and again so the admin.must take some decision about it and create a better atmosphere for a healthy competition .
@all please give some comment about this issue so admins.can see that what all want? byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif


totaly agree with u on that!!!!!!!!! even if the solution is no changes, there should be one, so we stop bubling over the same thing and get back to our main work... theme, wall, ring making......

thanks for supporting me atleast now this issue will come in eyes of admins. team byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif
shaon007009
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 11 2010, 11:29 PM) *
QUOTE (asthegr8 @ Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM) *
@ Admin.If any issue ends with no result then it will always in our mind and this issue is coming again and again so the admin.must take some decision about it and create a better atmosphere for a healthy competition .
@all please give some comment about this issue so admins.can see that what all want? byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif


totaly agree with u on that!!!!!!!!! even if the solution is no changes, there should be one, so we stop bubling over the same thing and get back to our main work... theme, wall, ring making......


Agree with both of you... There must need a solution of this.... grouphug.gif
ArthurWill
We read every words you write here and while we won't have a solution that satisfy everyone (we will never be able to come up with one wink.gif ) ... we are working frantically to draft a change to TMC ... let me finish analysing a few data. I will post our proposal here before the start of next week.
thabull
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Mar 12 2010, 11:49 AM) *
We read every words you write here and while we won't have a solution that satisfy everyone (we will never be able to come up with one wink.gif ) ... we are working frantically to draft a change to TMC ... let me finish analysing a few data. I will post our proposal here before the start of next week.



that's great news AW. at least i hope the complaints will stop... and we won't have new ones about the changes.... wink.gif
liapireas
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 12 2010, 11:51 AM) *
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Mar 12 2010, 11:49 AM) *
We read every words you write here and while we won't have a solution that satisfy everyone (we will never be able to come up with one wink.gif ) ... we are working frantically to draft a change to TMC ... let me finish analysing a few data. I will post our proposal here before the start of next week.



that's great news AW. at least i hope the complaints will stop... and we won't have new ones about the changes.... wink.gif



And we will have a brand new round of complains !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gathering.gif
Cyber_Spirit
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Mar 12 2010, 10:49 AM) *
We read every words you write here and while we won't have a solution that satisfy everyone (we will never be able to come up with one wink.gif ) ... we are working frantically to draft a change to TMC ... let me finish analysing a few data. I will post our proposal here before the start of next week.


Yes, i agree with you, there will always be people that won't like this or that so nobody will ever be fuly satisfied.
ArthurWill
Hahahaha, we will never have hands-up from everybody. Our purpose of change is to make sure - the Pros don't feel irritated by people complaining that they don't get to win (it's not their problem that they keep winning), ease pressure off judges, and give the beginners some awards to build upon. There will still be 1 discussion thread, 1 voting, and 1 winning announcement. smile.gif
thabull
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Mar 12 2010, 12:13 PM) *
There will still be 1 discussion thread, 1 voting, and 1 winning announcement. smile.gif



that's the most important Pat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and let's start the "dance"... i hope u won't put me in a possition of voting 25-30 themes each time and give a rank from 0-100 for each one of them laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

i'm just kidding (sometimes i feel i have to make this clear.... laugh.gif laugh.gif wink.gif ) i trust your insticts Pat.....

and after all "rules r rules" laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
asthegr8
QUOTE (liapireas @ Mar 12 2010, 03:57 AM) *
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 12 2010, 11:51 AM) *
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Mar 12 2010, 11:49 AM) *
We read every words you write here and while we won't have a solution that satisfy everyone (we will never be able to come up with one wink.gif ) ... we are working frantically to draft a change to TMC ... let me finish analysing a few data. I will post our proposal here before the start of next week.





And we will have a brand new round of complains !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gathering.gif



QUOTE (Cyber_Spirit @ Mar 12 2010, 04:15 AM) *
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Mar 12 2010, 10:49 AM) *


Yes, i agree with you, there will always be people that won't like this or that so nobody will ever be fuly satisfied.

i just want to say that it is good that nobody will satisfied cause when everyone is satisfy then there is no chance to improvement it's just thoughts ha ha ha
@AW we all eagerly waiting for your new proposal ....... clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif
thabull
can a modarator please stop mr/mrs DJSNTMSALAH from SPAMMING???????????????????? spam.gif spam.gif spam.gif spam.gif

hey DJSNTMSALAH stop SPAMMING by yourself.... spam.gif spam.gif spam.gif spam.gif , moderators and amins have more important thing to do..... spam.gif spam.gif spam.gif

ArthurWill
TMC 2010 Proposal

Recent weeks there has been lots of discussions about TMC voting. After collecting your feedback, giving in hard thoughts and analyzing the data we have, here is our proposal for next TMC voting & winning format.

Why we need to consider a change?
- extremely hard to compete with the top class themers & make it to podium
- overall voting doesn't quite show a themer's progress
- increasingly loud complaints about lack of opportunity to win that has started to make the regular winners to appear like "the person to blame"
- pressure on judges who kindly spent their time voting & helping themers to improve

Stuff we have to consider when making a change?
- resource is finite. We have to make sure it doesn't require the manager to spent 3 hrs sitting in front of PC stress out about setting up final voting thread, count votes, winners announcement
- when participants themselves don't bother to comment on the themes they choose to be winner, we cannot expect the judges to do so
- mixed proposals & response from participants, some support separating TMC into 2 groups, some oppose it strongly

Our proposal:
- scrap judges voting system, revert back to using public voting only. However, we will regulate public voting closely to filter off those who open another account & use it to vote for the same person every week regardless of how well the theme rank among the rest. We know who you are, it's not hard to detect consistent voting pattern. Worst come to worst, we will restrict voting to participants only.
- 1 topic, 1 discussion thread, 1 voting, 1 winning annoucement because we don't want to separate themers out as we believe you can learn more and enjoy more by participating in a single competition. Imagine if we separate into 2 groups, we might end up having 10 participants in 1 group and just 5 in another group. No fun at all.
- introduce Toothy winners. Basically it means we have 3 more positions to be won every week. The name Toothy comes from a thinking - babies are born without tooth and when their 1st tooth comes out, it signals the start of an exciting & long life adventure.

TMC 1st Place
TMC 2nd Place
TMC 3rd Place

TMC Toothy 1st Place
TMC Toothy 2nd Place
TMC Toothy 3rd Place

Only those who never won a trophy (gold, silver or bronze) in TMC are qualified for the Toothy positions. Once a themer won a position in TMC, he/she is consider a pro and should aim to compete against the other pros. For those who are new to theming, Toothy positions will serve as a smaller & more reachable goal to work towards to. Toothy winners will get separate trophies in their profile.

Lastly, we want to remind you that the objective of TMC, a competition we run since 2003, remains the same. TMC is a place for people who share the same passion to meet new friends, improve theming skills and have fun. If TMC is a cake, winning is only the icing. Themers who treat winning as the cake are likely to endure a tough & disappointing journey.

Okie, now it's time for you to speak your mind about this proposal of change. You have all our ears.
topmanner1
@ Arthurwill - Your proposal is simply amazing and it is a real gift for toothies or newbies because they get an opportunity to motivate that they can win a trophy. They will try to improve simultaneously by following the top themers. Then Coming to the voting system, You made a great decision by thinking to keep the voting only between participants.

This voting system will help guys like me atleast I will get two votes in toothies group because some people created multiple accounts and I have been frustrated after watching my last position many times. Those people get good amount of public votes due to the old system. Many people have gone ahead asking to vote for us in public with their friends and got the votes. But in fair way I should be proud of my one vote that I get every time.

Considering the fight about this issue, Your proposal was perfect in my view. I think if this proposal gets implemented it would definitely encourage many more participants giving a hope for victory. The other thing I liked in this is " You said if a participant won one TMC from toothy group he will be transferred to contest with top themers". This is a nice idea because What We Want is a Single Victory, Just once to feel proud of ourselves which automatically inspires to make better themes. thumbsup.gif

I am happy with all these proposals and ideas. You have made a fantastic proposal for changes in TMC.

I sincerely respect and appreciate it. smile.gif thumbsup.gif

thabull
i was sure that u will come up with something really good !!!!!!!!!!! clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif

i'm a bit sceptical with this "no judges" thing, but i c that u have a plan to avoid as much as possible the "friendly" voting...

but at the end i don't really care..... i'm here for the fun... just let me know which are the final updated rules, so i know what to do..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
sam1374
AW, this is an excellent solution what u'll have come out with...since long there was lots of talks going on in Tmc n Stc about medals...now i thing this should satisfy all...i just believe in 1 thing...RUNNING SLOW IN A RACE IS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN THE BEST THINGS.
shaon007009
Finally A Great Proposal AW.. I Like It.. But Still If I Need To Win... I've To Learn First.... grouphug.gif No Judge Mean No Exam... But Winning Is Still There.. So I Think You've A Great Idea To Make It Clean And Fair.... grouphug.gif grouphug.gif grouphug.gif
arbri135
nice one
thabull
QUOTE (shaon007009 @ Mar 14 2010, 10:36 AM) *
Finally A Great Proposal AW.. I Like It.. But Still If I Need To Win... I've To Learn First.... grouphug.gif No Judge Mean No Exam... But Winning Is Still There.. So I Think You've A Great Idea To Make It Clean And Fair.... grouphug.gif grouphug.gif grouphug.gif



how this became "clean" and "fair" mt dear friend Shaon?
Cyber_Spirit
ArthurWill This is great proposal for all who were not satisfied with up-to-date voting system clap.gif

I got the feeling that now even more participants will show up in TMC!!! laugh.gif
shaon007009
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 14 2010, 03:02 PM) *
QUOTE (shaon007009 @ Mar 14 2010, 10:36 AM) *
Finally A Great Proposal AW.. I Like It.. But Still If I Need To Win... I've To Learn First.... grouphug.gif No Judge Mean No Exam... But Winning Is Still There.. So I Think You've A Great Idea To Make It Clean And Fair.... grouphug.gif grouphug.gif grouphug.gif

how this became "clean" and "fair" mt dear friend Shaon?


Actually I've A Fear That There Will Be Friendly Vote As You Said.. That's Why I Said So... That's All... And I've No Solution To Make It Clean And Fair.... Sorry... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
thabull
QUOTE (shaon007009 @ Mar 14 2010, 12:59 PM) *
QUOTE (thabull @ Mar 14 2010, 03:02 PM) *
QUOTE (shaon007009 @ Mar 14 2010, 10:36 AM) *
Finally A Great Proposal AW.. I Like It.. But Still If I Need To Win... I've To Learn First.... grouphug.gif No Judge Mean No Exam... But Winning Is Still There.. So I Think You've A Great Idea To Make It Clean And Fair.... grouphug.gif grouphug.gif grouphug.gif

how this became "clean" and "fair" mt dear friend Shaon?


Actually I've A Fear That There Will Be Friendly Vote As You Said.. That's Why I Said So... That's All... And I've No Solution To Make It Clean And Fair.... Sorry... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif



time will show mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
liapireas
I love the suggestions Patricia ....
p.snp
Great Proposal AW ................ grouphug.gif
asthegr8
wow this such an good idea clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif
I am very happy that this issue is finally came to an end and big thanks to admins.team that they solve this problem byebye.gif byebye.gif byebye.gif
noahsarc
Hmmm Good liked the idea!!! wow.gif wow.gif
imsagi
i also want to say that i really don't believe in split or grouping

i never use photoshop or any editing software in my hole life that much seriousily that im using in these 2 months when i started making themes for competitons

a kid don't not standup n walk he scroll then holding things to stand then slowly slowly he start walking just eg

making themes is just like that
if we want to win so we should have to work hard creating new things n make themes alive so the gold trophy cant go anywhere


sorry to say that but i don't think that anyone have that much time to help us here im learning with my own self no one is helping me here

i don't know how im making themes wether they r good or not but im making for the sake of learning becoz no one wants to make other person perfect


if we grouped then beignners will strick in beignners tmc (i think that ) until they get rising themer badge don't know how much time it'll take so no more chance to take part in advance tmc what is this
i like to take part with great themers to improve my skills


nice idea AW
thabull
my dear imsagi your words sound half nice, half bitter i think u r speaking the truth as u understand and c it.
i totally agree with u about being better step by step, till the gold can't go nowhere else.....

but i don't agree with u that nobody helps others in these threads. unfortunatelly theme making is not like history or maths. nobody can take you (and anybody else) by the hand and learn u to ake themes. there is not a certain technique in theme making. every themer has his/her own style and philosophy when they r making themes

i personally learned to make themes by myself. i became better after hours of searchfor tips in the internet, tips i got from our fellow theme makers in M9 and the feedback i gt from my themes.....

these are the help u get from here......

unless u don't get even these....... in that case i really don't know what to say.....
imsagi
THEBULL DEAR READ MY LINE I SAID NO ONE HELPING ME I DIDN'T SAY THAT NO ONE GUIDING ANY PERSON I WAS SAYING FOR MY SELF
U GOT TIPS TO OTHER FELLOWS BUT I DON'T BUT HOPE FOR GOOD

IM NOT COMPLAINING SURE I'LL GET TIPS TO
thabull
QUOTE (imsagi @ Mar 15 2010, 06:44 PM) *
THEBULL DEAR READ MY LINE I SAID NO ONE HELPING ME I DIDN'T SAY THAT NO ONE GUIDING ANY PERSON I WAS SAYING FOR MY SELF
U GOT TIPS TO OTHER FELLOWS BUT I DON'T BUT HOPE FOR GOOD

IM NOT COMPLAINING SURE I'LL GET TIPS TO



i didn't mean something bad by my comment. and i didn't mean that u cpmplain. in fact i liked your comment because it seemed to me that u r speaking the "hard" truth....
i read thoroughly your first comment and that's why it was strange for me that u have't got any "help" since now....
although, u got a very good "eye" for thenming thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
but i think u should move to a theme making programm instead of that online u r using...... it's very good, but your theming will explode with a programm.... (don't ask me which program, i'm in s60 theming, even though carbide is supporting s40. but it's better if u ask s40 themers....)
DJSNTMSALAH
my dear imsagi your words sound half nice, half bitter i think u r speaking the truth as u understand and c it.
i totally agree with u about being better step by step, till the gold can't go nowhere else.
le_figaroo
grouphug.gif i'm no winner clap.gif
noahsarc
TMC is going bad day by day, i think people are interested more in making friends to get votes and not see and choose properly the deserving contestant.

Its bulls*** TMC is bulls***. I'm done with TMC. I don't wanna waste whatever talent i have.
ArthurWill
A clarification about Toothy awards - it's only for those who never won a position in TMC & those who haven't got the Gifted, Certified or Legendary Themer Award.
deepasree
I agree with noahsarc partially. But i will try untill i get one...
arbri135
@Noaharc Is totally right i mean what's happening with m9 here.Why all great members are leaving

This week at TMC started very boring don't know why

I want The Old TMC back................... sad.gif
RaganorK
Can i know, how the participants creates the theme ? ? ?
deepasree
QUOTE (RaganorK @ Jul 11 2010, 10:30 PM) *
Can i know, how the participants creates the theme ? ? ?

use nokia carbide ui 3.4 or se theme creator 4.16
RaganorK
QUOTE (deepasree @ Jul 11 2010, 10:33 AM) *
QUOTE (RaganorK @ Jul 11 2010, 10:30 PM) *
Can i know, how the participants creates the theme ? ? ?

use nokia carbide ui 3.4 or se theme creator 4.16


Ok.. i got the software Carbide and gained some experience also .... but how to get the screenshots ? ? Is there any option in Carbide itself ? ?
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