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ArthurWill
Hello M9ers!

After some careful planning, we will start the Symbian Theme Contest (STC) 2009 next Monday (20th April 2009). wow.gif There are slight changes in the rules & guidelines so please read and understand this post.

The STC is not a replacement of TMC. The TMC is still open to themes for different phones. However, if you make themes for Symbian phones (using Carbide or any other online theme maker), you now have another competition to join. thumbsup.gif

I will be hosting the STC for the time being until we found a suitable candidate to be the STC Manager. So I need your help. Can you please suggest some topics we can use for next week's competition? We will choose one from your suggestion!
Bishop_Bacon
That indeed sounds very exciting smile.gif

Just to make a start:
* spring (DONE as a variation, Four Seasons, STC 23)
* your favourite colour
* animals
* repeated patterns (DONE, STC 16)
ArthurWill
Thanks BB. Some good suggestions. Is it spring in your country now? I'm seeing a lot more spring-related themes everywhere lately ...

My own contribution:
*Alien
Emmsy
Topics:
- books
- your favorite movie

This is like TMC with just Nokia themes, right? smile.gif
sandrita83
Sudgestions

- Children
- Famous person who changed something in the world (like Nelson Mandela)
- Music
- Love
- Games

I can keep on for a while if u want... Ust tell me if I should! tongue.gif
ArthurWill
QUOTE (Emmsy @ Apr 14 2009, 01:17 AM) *
This is like TMC with just Nokia themes, right? smile.gif

Yup, that's correct!

@Emmsy, @sandrita83
Thanks for the suggestions. Now we have a few good topics to play with. thumbsup.gif

@all
Keep your suggestions coming, you won't know, your favourite topic will probably end up being selected. weightlift.gif
Gault
My suggestions :

Abstract

Tech like that ultra cool super hell awesome theme Bishop Bacon made. JET oh yeah.

or


Mobile9.

these are the same topics i suggested for WPC 100.

another one i want to suggest is :

OPEN Topic. since its the first NTC of 2009.
Bishop_Bacon
By the way: Will the STC be "Open Topic" every 4 weeks, similar to the TMC?
ArthurWill
QUOTE (Bishop_Bacon @ Apr 29 2009, 01:26 AM) *
By the way: Will the STC be "Open Topic" every 4 weeks, similar to the TMC?

No. There will be some "Open Topic" every now and then but not exactly every 4 weeks. My plan is to make STC a little different. Will throw in different competition methods, which means the competition will be more than just "create a theme based on a topic". I already have one in mind, will give it a go once participants are more familiar with the flow of the competition (where to post final entry, vote etc). smile.gif
Coolnav
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ May 4 2009, 09:31 AM) *
QUOTE (Bishop_Bacon @ Apr 29 2009, 01:26 AM) *
By the way: Will the STC be "Open Topic" every 4 weeks, similar to the TMC?

No. There will be some "Open Topic" every now and then but not exactly every 4 weeks. My plan is to make STC a little different. Will throw in different competition methods, which means the competition will be more than just "create a theme based on a topic". I already have one in mind, will give it a go once participants are more familiar with the flow of the competition (where to post final entry, vote etc). smile.gif

Thats a great idea Aw..thumbsup.gif
Coolnav
I've thought of a topic which is an artwork done by themselves and make a theme of it.What do you think.???
ArthurWill
QUOTE (Coolnav @ May 4 2009, 11:07 PM) *
I've thought of a topic which is an artwork done by themselves and make a theme of it.What do you think.???

Topic: Make everything from scratch

Yes, that will certainly be one topic we will use down the road. Good suggestion, keep them coming! thumbsup.gif
Mevicky
I think we can also take a picture of scenario of our own places n make a scratch of them n work on them..I think it requires a bit more work than before but it would b somethin new and interestin....clapping.gif clapping.gif clapping.gif
ArthurWill
Topics suggested:
Sourav_Kumar - famous monument
angelnaina - facemask
sp0rtskiller03 - computers
galmed
all bout white, or RADIO or turn table..
congratulations to the winners STC13
terima kasih=domo arigato=thank u
tongue.gif
thabull
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Jul 14 2009, 01:13 PM) *
Topics suggested:
Sourav_Kumar - famous monument
angelnaina - facemask
sp0rtskiller03 - computers



NVDVS's topic has been rejected?
Sourav_Kumar
QUOTE (thabull @ Jul 14 2009, 07:06 PM) *
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Jul 14 2009, 01:13 PM) *
Topics suggested:
Sourav_Kumar - famous monument
angelnaina - facemask
sp0rtskiller03 - computers



NVDVS's topic has been rejected?


No it's the current stc 14 topic.........
clown92
QUOTE (galmed @ Jul 14 2009, 07:10 AM) *
all bout white, or RADIO or turn table..
congratulations to the winners STC13
terima kasih=domo arigato=thank u
tongue.gif


Sudgestions

music (eminem,korn,slipkot,metallica,iron maiden,pantera,etc)
abstrat(graffiti)
girls------
cars
anime
etc
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saraamir
my suggestion is:

love
kiss
huge
heart
thabull
hey people i'm in too!!!!!!!!!!!! (better late than never....)


i would now like to have your attention for a couple of thoughts

1. ok people, i understand that sometimes in our need to satisfy the users of our themes we get a little confused of what element (wally, coloring, icons etc) we should use in our themes. so we ask for help (i've done it myself also)
but now i think we have jumped to the other end. everybody asks the opinion of the others for every step takenas i c it happening. first we have a competition between wallys... ("which should i choose"), then we pass to the colors (of highlighting, of text etc) then i feel we will pass to the icons.... and so it will go
i feel the point of the whole STC is every thememaker to present his/her work to the others. the inspiration, the imagination, the whole feeling of the theme. it's healthy of course to present the wallpaper i'm thinking to use (like Brinislaw did) and ask for the opinion (because sometimes a wall probably will raise later issues of visibility, usability even technical in the theme creating that can be in time avoided)
thememaking is supposed to be fun and to present our own personality. in the chase of winning if i present a theme that every element was chosen by a small contest inside the big contest, then thememaking looses it's real meaning....
but then again everybody does what everybody feels to do.....

2. i would like to ask from everybody to present their themes with the actual screenshots of their themes (in fact, this could be a rule.... (think about it AW and rhtz)
with this we achieve the following
a. each maker car check the theme in real before the final post. (sometimes black text in list text gets white and stuff like that. it happens a lot in my n95 8gb
b. when creating a theme for s60 3rd edition, everything is well in carbide, but when installed in a pnone (i'm talking again for n95 8gb) some icons are missing and we have the phenomenon of half icons the style the maker used and half icons the default nokia icons. so here a question about the quality of the theme's technick is raised (is that kind of theme better than a theme which is complete in this area because it's fancier? and the work of the theme maker who spent hours trying to find the UID which are missing in order his/her theme to be complete and unvarying?

these are my thoughts people in order to make this contest real useful for our improvement and funny. perhaps this should be post in a different area of the forum, but i feel that some of us who are living members of this organism called STC wouldn't get this thoughts.....

so, once more @rhtz.... i'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
daisy06
QUOTE (thabull @ Jul 30 2009, 06:41 AM) *
hey people i'm in too!!!!!!!!!!!! (better late than never....)


i would now like to have your attention for a couple of thoughts

1. ok people, i understand that sometimes in our need to satisfy the users of our themes we get a little confused of what element (wally, coloring, icons etc) we should use in our themes. so we ask for help (i've done it myself also)
but now i think we have jumped to the other end. everybody asks the opinion of the others for every step takenas i c it happening. first we have a competition between wallys... ("which should i choose"), then we pass to the colors (of highlighting, of text etc) then i feel we will pass to the icons.... and so it will go
i feel the point of the whole STC is every thememaker to present his/her work to the others. the inspiration, the imagination, the whole feeling of the theme. it's healthy of course to present the wallpaper i'm thinking to use (like Brinislaw did) and ask for the opinion (because sometimes a wall probably will raise later issues of visibility, usability even technical in the theme creating that can be in time avoided)
thememaking is supposed to be fun and to present our own personality. in the chase of winning if i present a theme that every element was chosen by a small contest inside the big contest, then thememaking looses it's real meaning....
but then again everybody does what everybody feels to do.....

2. i would like to ask from everybody to present their themes with the actual screenshots of their themes (in fact, this could be a rule.... (think about it AW and rhtz)
with this we achieve the following
a. each maker car check the theme in real before the final post. (sometimes black text in list text gets white and stuff like that. it happens a lot in my n95 8gb
b. when creating a theme for s60 3rd edition, everything is well in carbide, but when installed in a pnone (i'm talking again for n95 8gb) some icons are missing and we have the phenomenon of half icons the style the maker used and half icons the default nokia icons. so here a question about the quality of the theme's technick is raised (is that kind of theme better than a theme which is complete in this area because it's fancier? and the work of the theme maker who spent hours trying to find the UID which are missing in order his/her theme to be complete and unvarying?

these are my thoughts people in order to make this contest real useful for our improvement and funny. perhaps this should be post in a different area of the forum, but i feel that some of us who are living members of this organism called STC wouldn't get this thoughts.....

so, once more @rhtz.... i'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




hey tha_bull, i agree with almost everything you said...a couple of things tho.....I dont have an s603rd phone anymore so am unable to test my theme before submitting, but i will not use carbide to make themes for my new phone, cos i jus dont get it!
2nd, i dont even know if it is possible to change all icons, eg operator, i used to use telstra (a provider here in aus) and that icon would always
stay as telstra's default, i know there were a few other ones but i cant think of them right now!
and while i like the idea of actual screenshots from the phone, some ppl may not want to upload screen shot to their phone!

everything else tho i totally agree, we do ask opinions too often, but i feel we do this to better our technique, maybe not when it comes to actually choosing the wally, but certainly for things like softs, and highlights

just my opinion
thabull
i guess u r talking about this to become a rule. yeah, i guess u r right. u can't check it and upload your own screenshot, so that would be unfair to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!, so lets make it an ethical rule for all of us who have this opportunity
2nd. operator logo can't be changed, but stuff like maps, search, games, music, 3d tones.... have a problem (i could provide a screenshot, but that would be unethical to the fellow theme maker). the point is that this maker makes the theme for e.g. n73, where there's no problem, but in the theme gallery n73 and n95 8gb themes laying in the same folder. when i install a theme that faces that problem of intergration i can't really use it even if i like the whole project very much.
as per people like to upload screens of their own phones, they could provide screens without personal info as many of us aready do.

with my first position, i don't disagree with stuff like softs, highlights or even between a couple of wallys, but it's getting a little tiring to browse between posts with 5 or more wallys trying to decide..... everybody wants to help, but i think it's better to chose by ourselfs our own walls instead of chosing walls for the others and the others for us. it's kind of ironic, don't u think?
(after all posting the wall we want to work with, somehow works to get a first feedback for our themes and try to avoid 2 identical walls used by 2 different makers. eventhough i suggested for an STC to b a certain wall for everybody, but this is a total different issue...)

glad we agree in the base of that matter. details will help us to make the best out of it!!!!!!!!!!
ArthurWill
@thabull
You raised a couple of points about STC and I can see you want the competition to be better, which is good. Here are my opinion on the issues raised. My 2 cents. smile.gif

1. constantly posting screenshots & ask for opinions
Some themers like to do experiment on their own and only post a final entry. Some themers like to hear what others say & change accordingly. Everyone is different. What I think is important is to allow themer to do what they feel comfortable with. It's not mandatory to ask for opinions but it's also not forbidden. Back then, when I was still theming, I only post final product. But I'm open to opinions, if someone point out something I will open the theme creator, check then decide if I want to make changes. But a lot of the time, what they say is true. It makes my theme better & help me to improve.

2. posting screenshots taken from the phone
This is ideal. I know some of the themers do that every time. But as Daisy pointed out some themers no longer have a compatible phone. So yeah, I agree with you that for those who have the phone, it's best if they do it. But it won't be made a rule in STC. Btw, this is one reason why we invite experience themers to be judges. Often, judges are those who know a lot about Carbide and their S60 or Series 40 phone. Some of them even test every theme on their phone to see if there are problems not seen in Carbide. We hope that helps to select the best theme to win in STC.

*note: Icons is a fascinating thing. I use themes with customised icons but then sometimes a uncustomised icon stand out too much from the rest of the set then I'm back to themes with default icons. It's probably impossible to customise every single app icons available out there. Lots of them!

@all STC participants
What's your opinion on the things thabull suggested? Voice them out. This is your competition so we wanna hear from you.
_anuj_
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Jul 30 2009, 03:40 PM) *
@thabull
You raised a couple of points about STC and I can see you want the competition to be better, which is good. Here are my opinion on the issues raised. My 2 cents. smile.gif

1. constantly posting screenshots & ask for opinions
Some themers like to do experiment on their own and only post a final entry. Some themers like to hear what others say & change accordingly. Everyone is different. What I think is important is to allow themer to do what they feel comfortable with. It's not mandatory to ask for opinions but it's also not forbidden. Back then, when I was still theming, I only post final product. But I'm open to opinions, if someone point out something I will open the theme creator, check then decide if I want to make changes. But a lot of the time, what they say is true. It makes my theme better & help me to improve.

2. posting screenshots taken from the phone
This is ideal. I know some of the themers do that every time. But as Daisy pointed out some themers no longer have a compatible phone. So yeah, I agree with you that for those who have the phone, it's best if they do it. But it won't be made a rule in STC. Btw, this is one reason why we invite experience themers to be judges. Often, judges are those who know a lot about Carbide and their S60 or Series 40 phone. Some of them even test every theme on their phone to see if there are problems not seen in Carbide. We hope that helps to select the best theme to win in STC.

*note: Icons is a fascinating thing. I use themes with customised icons but then sometimes a uncustomised icon stand out too much from the rest of the set then I'm back to themes with default icons. It's probably impossible to customise every single app icons available out there. Lots of them!

@all STC participants
What's your opinion on the things thabull suggested? Voice them out. This is your competition so we wanna hear from you.



there have been alot of valid points raised here, like daisy i also no longer have a phone to test s40 themes, but im not a big fan of s60 themes i find them difficult to make. as for asking questions from a personal view, i do regularly ask for the opinions of others for the simple reason that im not good at making themes and when i recieve feedback it helps build my confidence
thabull
@AW totally agree.... (as i already posted for daisy) and as u gave me the whole experienced judges issue, there's no longer a screen issue for me.

@everybody
the point for me is that i still don't see how letting people chose for me between 10 wallys makes me a better themer. it's like i've created 10 different themes and i'm asking which one is better so i use it in the competition. i say once again that it's ok with me to let people say their opinion between a couple of wallys where somebody may be confused (i did it myself sometime), but between 6 or 10?

i didn't post this for some people to apologize. there's no need for anybody to do that. we are all individuals and that's the beautiful part of it

i just proposed some things in order to make the thread fun and not tiring (in my opinion....)

1. make it easy to rest by let choosing between our final couple of wall choices
2. when possible using real screens

this is the conclusion of my general thinking..... i just fell the need to justify my 2 proposals....

thanks again...
galmed
I have suggestions for posts in this forum,
I note the entry preview all Participant
the file size is very large, so slow to see
gathering.gif
before upload, I usually do this with adobe photoshop:
rhtz
Topic Suggestion::

New Seven Wonders of the World
thabull
QUOTE (rhtz @ Aug 10 2009, 08:51 PM) *
Topic Suggestion::

New Seven Wonders of the World



nice one!!!!!!!!!!! but why only the "new"? and exclude some of the original ones?
ArthurWill
@galmed
Good point on decreasing the size of the preview. I can understand viewing those big previews takes ages to load. Unfortunately save for web reduces the quality of the image which is not what most themers want to see. They want to present the best of their work.

@rhtz @thabull
Nice topic! Might give people the choice to make either the old or the new 7 wonders of the world. However, since we just had the landscape topic, I will reserve this topic for future STC. Agree?
thabull
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Aug 11 2009, 03:27 AM) *
@galmed
Good point on decreasing the size of the preview. I can understand viewing those big previews takes ages to load. Unfortunately save for web reduces the quality of the image which is not what most themers want to see. They want to present the best of their work.

@rhtz @thabull
Nice topic! Might give people the choice to make either the old or the new 7 wonders of the world. However, since we just had the landscape topic, I will reserve this topic for future STC. Agree?



i guess so.......
ArthurWill
QUOTE (thabull @ Aug 11 2009, 02:48 PM) *
i guess so.......

Humn, just you guess so? bash.gif Ok now? haha.gif
thabull
i want to declare that i totally and unconditionally agree with the great AW, the most beautifull, notworthy.gif smart, notworthy.gif elegant, notworthy.gif kind, precious, notworthy.gif caring notworthy.gif and very strong with a hammer person in this universe (and not only this....)


(are we ok now?) laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
clown92
Topics suggested:

GOTHIC
SKULL
ROCK BANDS
CAR
PG001
some suggestions :

1.The Future

2.automobiles (DONE, STC 29)

3.Energy

4.Countries Around the World

5.Optical Illusions
bd_tongi
animatio
Yoyocell
my sugest is,

make a cartoon anime theme thumbsup.gif (i think its oke unsure.gif
swt_capri
1. fav personality

2. smile (STC 38)

3. fav cartoon character (STC 31, Disney Cartoon)

4. pet animal
thabull
i don't really know what to suggest, but something is coming to my mind.....

landscape, space..... i would also say "funny" but this will create a great confusion about what will be in topic and what would be out..... after all who's to say what's funny for anybody....

so we stick to landscape or space...
laciad
@ thabull


steel my ideas...joking Alex but I was the same though as you. I should say to create smth with Anime


I let here as example because my english it's not so good





deepasree
My suggestions are...

1. Rain
2. Birds
3. Sunset (Done in STC 37, as part of SKY)
4. Obey traffic rules
thabull
QUOTE (laciad @ Apr 11 2010, 07:30 PM) *
@ thabull


steel my ideas...joking Alex but I was the same though as you. I should say to create smth with Anime


I let here as example because my english it's not so good




this has nothing to do with my suggestions.......
or u changed it, because u wer already thinking of space or landscape?

hehehehehehehehe i'm a mind reader, so becareful what u think..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
deepasree
We can try a stc on

Films
Country
Signs
swt_capri
1. seasons (summer, winter, wutumn, spring, rain)

2. sad mood ( use image who descirbe sad mood or feeling)

3. fav cartoon pair (like mikey minnie)

4. animated themes (restriction none choose any thing but theme must be animated)
swt_capri
1. ocassions (like birthday, marriages)

2. 7 wonders

3. deadly sins (we did this one in tmc)

4. human moods (sad, happy, silence)
krish_nank
Was there any topic about film "Avatar" is this a good topic?
mylaraghav
rules.gif surrender.gif 10.gif clap.gif notworthy.gif
mylaraghav
Nice one u will achive more here
thabull
had to post something in order to track this thread.....
Galina53
QUOTE (ArthurWill @ Dec 3 2010, 11:36 PM) *
@Galina
If you have question about voting, this is NOT the place to discuss. You can continue the discussion on HERE or in people's profile or some other place you like. And please remember one thing - we DON'T force anyone to participate in STC. It's a great place to meet new friends, get inspiration & learn from others, as well as have fun. Nothing else. Thanks. grouphug.gif

Yes, i have by question- what means of the theme of some participants during the first day they do fall in the recommended loads? I discuss nothing, but I establish fact. and, if on the forum the competition of themes, then it must be the competition of themes!It is hard to have fun when you see the unfair treatment of new entrants to competitions! Thanks!
ArthurWill
I don't get what you mean by fall in the recommended loads. Please elaborate.

It's competition of themes and we are competing with themes as entry. Themes include a lot of other things = theme elements, theme presentation, wallpaper etc.

You are right, it's hard to have fun when you see "unfair treatment". Equally true, it's hard to have fun if you see people complaining about results/vote for friends/same people winning etc WITHOUT any CONSTRUCTIVE SUGGESTION. My standard answer to this = give us suggestion. Give us constructive suggestion on how we can solve the so call "unfair treatment". Then we will see what we can do about it. As far as I can see, Toothy is something we give for new participants. If you have some other workable idea, say it out.
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