Many bad points on there. NO MP3 ringtones!!!! obviously an Apple ploy to introduce it via update and only accept those downloaded from iTunes store, money making tactics!

No 3G, seriously!!!

what ??? no mp3 ...

then why would anyone buy that kind of phone ...

lets think about the future of a phone for a moment ... oh ya , ok a phone

without mp3 , this is quite funny ...

Does that mean we can only use built-in ringtones?

EDIT: I got it now, it seems that iPhone wouldn't play full music tracks as ringtones. According to CNET, MacRumors has confirmed that:

The phone might not be released yet, but quite a number of third-party applications have been created! The good thing about them is that they are compatible with Safari (browser for apple computer), so you can actually try them without the need to own the costly phone.

Lifehacker's Top 10 iPhone Applications

Of all, I love the OneTrip Shopping List the most!

What about you?

yea i heard about this also, which sucks. I can but a whole sony for $0.99 , then spend another $0.99 to turn 30 sec of it into a ringtone.


Apple really changed the way a phone should be but at the same time they took away a lot of "common" features. Thats just how apple works. they just got to push the big features and then milk off of the little features.


@ techno Sorry about ruining it for you mate, just wanted our fellow M9's to know ALL of the facts before they spend their $2,519 on an iphone

Remember way back in 2004, when Verizon Wireless introduced Motorola's V710 with "crippled" Bluetooth? Headset pairing worked, but there were no file-transfer options and other extended features. People literally sued in protest. Well, as you probably know, the scales of justice never tipped. In the past three years, most Bluetooth phones sold by carriers in the US have been "crippled" in that sense, including the iPhone:
• It can't transfer files to a PC, or appear on a desktop for drag-and-drop file juggling.
• It can't send a photo to a Bluetooth printer.
• It can't stream audio via Bluetooth to a compatible speaker system or headset. (Video is out of the question.)
However, it can link with any Bluetooth headset on the market, including the Apple iPhone Bluetooth Headset that will soon be at an Apple Store near you. Now that you're depressed about its lack of capability, want to hear what's cool?

When you make or receive a call and a Bluetooth headset is linked, the screen lets you route the call to the headset (where it's routed by default) or to the iPhone itself, or to the iPhone's speakerphone. This may seem like a silly little item, but anyone who has dealt with Bluetooth headsets for a while knows it can be a lifesaver: say a call is coming in, and you don't know where your headset is. Instead of driving off the road looking for it, you just tap "Speaker Phone." What about if you are getting out of your car, and want to leave the headset behind. Instead of powering down, and risking losing your call in the process, you just tap "Audio Source," select "iPhone" and get on your way.

I tested the iPhone with both the Aliph Jawbone headset and the Motorola S9, a pair of Bluetooth stereo headphones with microphone and call capability. Of course, music didn't play through the stereo headphones, but it could handle calls.

A single tap on the Moto or Jawbone headset main button is supposed to initiate speaker-independent voice recognition, and it does in a lot of really cheapo phones. On the iPhone, though, it does nothing, because the iPhone doesn't have voice dialing. A double-tap on the Jawbone (or a prolonged tap on the Moto) did initiate a "redial", however, even when the iPhone was totally dormant.

Not expecting much, I took the liberty of attempting to pair the phone with a Dell Windows Vista laptop. I was momentarily filled with hope when the laptop recognized the device, and even went through all of the stages of pairing. I was not surprised though when the whole exercise turned out to be moot: sure, the iPhone was paired, but it had no "services" to perform. Meanwhile, the iPhone screen simply showed that it was discoverable, nothing more


via: Gizmodo

It's official: your older video iPod can duplicate many of the features of Apple TV, but the iPhone specifically cannot. There is no capacity for outputting video, via Apple dock, cable or third-party accessory. This means that the iPhone will not be a direct competitor to the Apple TV (good news for Apple, perhaps). It also means that any videos you may have bought a second time or encoded again at higher resolution may have been in vain. And so are your chances of ever bringing movies to your vacation rental, weekend home or friend's house to watch via iPhone.

When you queue up a movie or TV show in the video iPod, you see the options "TV on" and "TV off". If you select "TV on", your iPod screen goes blank and the program starts up on TV. There's a dock with S-Video output, and a cable that you can plug directly into a video output with composite video, plus stereo sound.

It may not come as a surprise that you can't plug in the cable: Apple has notoriously depressed the headphone jack so that only headphones with super slim jacks will fit. But even connected via 30-pin to Apple's own dock and a 3rd party Memorex iFlip, the outcome is the same. There is no option of "TV on," at the start of video play or buried deep within the menus. Thank God the iPhone has a spacious screen, cuz that's all your ever gonna watch it's videos on, ever.

iPhone docked:



iPod docked:



iPhone with Apple cable:



Cable doesn't even fit:

Ripoff: Breaking: Several AT&T Stores Forced Customers to Buy Accessories With iPhone



Following up on the launch difference between AT&T and Apple stores, we've got three separate accounts of people reporting that AT&T is forcing them to buy accessories along with their iPhone at three different AT&T stores. This was definitely not the case at Apple stores, and for AT&T to decide this on their own to cash in on the launch is pretty damn shady.

The first comes from the University Village AT&T store at
4626 25th Ave NE, Seattle, WA (Phone 206-729-7184). When buying the iPhone yesterday, the store said all customers must by two accessories with an iPhone, but the accessories could be returned, opened, without a restocking fee. Add to that the fact that the salesman didn't even know a charger was included and tried to upsell a different charger to the reader.

The second, at the Hawthorne California AT&T Store at 5249 W. Rosecrans in Hawthorne California (Phone 310-725-9902), the store manager said customers were required to buy a "bundle" of accessories. The bundle, written up with magic marker on an unofficial sign, listed the 4GB bundle at $650 and the 8GB bundle at $750. The manager told the customer that they couldn't buy the phones without the bundle and that they could leave the store if they didn't want it. When asked if he could return the items, they said yes, but only tomorrow (today).

The third store, at Pike Street in Seattle, forced people to buy $60 worth of accessories (a case and car charger), and if you didn't, you'd get a voucher and the iPhone would be mailed to you some time next week. The reader eventually went to the Apple Store nearby, and eventually his friend (who stayed at the AT&T store) told him they stopped pushing the accessories.

One is a fluke, two is a coincidence, but three? And possibly more? That, my friends, is ridiculous.

If this happened to you, send a tip to us at tips@gizmodo.com.

Update: Joel says the AT&T store on broadway near city hall in NY was doing the same until some guy told them it was "illegal".

Scott says the 4th Street store in Santa Ana had 20 phones, and after 10 people went in they announced everything was sold out. They then told the remaining customers that throgh a "special deal", they could order an iPhone and receive it within 2 business days. The special deal? To buy 3 accessories that night.

Update 2: A reader tells us if an AT&T rep doesn't sell between $60-$65 worth of accessories for each phone sale and $20-$30 worth of features, he can be written up and terminated if sales don't improve within 45 days. If customers came and bought iPhones without accessories, this would have caused a big downwards drag on their record. Each accessory sold will count toward a rep's sales goals, even if it's returned the next day, plus he gets six cents on the dollar.

Even weirder: regional managers had side bets on Friday with stores and had perks for reps that sold an X amount of accessories. The reader says they basically acted like used car salesmen.

Update 3:Not forcing the accessories on people, but the store on Bridford Parkway in Greensboro, NC sealed the phones in with the accessories any

Buyer's Guide: Wait! Ten Things You Should Know Before You Buy an iPhone



Although Apple's iPhone may be feature-packed and great to use, it, like every other product, has limitations. And that's why we're putting it through our Ten Things You Should Know buyer's guide series so new buyers and people who don't live and breathe the iPhone (your parents, your co-workers, or your wife) can be just as well informed as you. Here are the Ten Things You Should Know Before You Buy an iPhone.

1) Not all iPod Accessories and headphones will work with the iPhone: Unless your accessory specifically claims that it works with the iPhone, you're going to have mixed results when you plug in. Some work (but prompt you to turn on Airplane mode), some don't. So far our test show good results.

As for headphones, if you've got an L-shaped plug or a fat plug, you're out of luck. Thanks to the recessed headphone jack, you're going to actually have to buy an adapter to get some of your regular headphones to work with the iPhone.

2) AT&T is Evil: You know this. Being stuck on AT&T for two years is going to be horrible. This is the company that had managers forcing customers to buy accessories with the iPhone just so they could meet their sales quotas. Plus, their reception and customer service leave a lot to be desired.

3) No video recording or MMS: The iPhone's 2-megapixel camera is great if there's enough light, but there's no video recording at all. None. This is odd, since the iPhone has so much video playback capabilities in its iPod "app," but don't expect to make movies with this thing. And since you can't record video, you can't send any video messages (MMS) either.

4) No Instant Messaging: The SMS app may look great with its iChat-esque bubbles, but there's no IM app to be found anywhere. With the Helio Ocean and the Sidekick both featuring on-board multi-client IM apps, and Windows Mobile and Palm smartphones able to add them on later, there's no excuse for not having an IM client.

5) Not for business use: BlackBerry enthusiasts need not apply. In addition to the keyboard being totally different (we're already typing fast with two thumbs, but less "adaptable" people may not pick up on this as fast), there's no push email except for Yahoo Mail. There is Exchange support, but it's just using IMAP access. Good luck getting your IT department to hook this up.

6) It's not a full iPod Replacement, and it has no games: With 4GB or 8GB of storage, this is essentially an iPod nano. It's definitely not an iPod Video, both in terms of storage and functionality. You can watch videos, sure, but there's no TV out, and not nearly enough room to keep all the TV shows and podcasts you keep downloading. Plus, all those 5G iPod games that you thought were going to make it onto the iPhone? Nope. No games at all.

7) It's not a smartphone: As much as Apple wants you to think their "open application development" using webapps is actual apps, it's not. You can get some stuff done using webapps and Safari, but as of right now, support sucks. Until people start developing apps specifically customized for the iPhone's quirks, you won't be doing anything super fancy. And of course there's no way for you to get "real" Cocoa-based apps onto the iPhone.

8) The data connection is slow: Although the iPhone has both EDGE and Wi-Fi, you're probably going to be using EDGE most of the time. Why? Because if you're in Wi-Fi range, you're usually at home or at work, when you've got an actual computer in front of you. When you're outside driving or walking, you'll be on EDGE. If you're on EDGE, expect emails with large attachments and Web pages to download slowly. Unlike other gripes, this is something they can't fix with a software update. Real time traffic is nice though.

9) There's no GPS: The iPhone may have a Google Maps application with turn by turn driving directions, but there's no actual GPS in there. You're going to have find your current location yourself, plus tell the phone exactly when you're turning. Like the data connection, a software update can't fix this.

10) There are no custom ringtones: You can't use your own ringtones (whether they're MP3s, downloaded music, or iTunes tracks) as ringtones for your phone. Luckily for us, since the default ringtones are pretty lousy, custom ringtones may be coming soon.

As you can see, the iPhone has caveats galore. Even though we're still enjoying the iPhone, any prospective buyers should be aware of these limitations before throwing down $500 or $600. Many of these problems (video recording, MMS, Instant Messaging, custom ringtones) can be fixed with a software update, but if any of the other features are important to you, you may have to wait until iPhone 2.0.

GREAT NEWS!!!!


Convert that iPhone into a 6th Gen WiFi-enabled iPod

We found the other day that Apple and AT&T are not totally transparent regarding the true capabilities and compatibility status of the newly-released iPhone. It was found that owners can actually opt to go prepaid after tinkering with iTunes sign-up service and social security number.

Anyway, here's another "exploit" for all you iPhone freaks out there: removing the SIM that comes with the phone and/or putting in an inactive SIM will automatically convert your mobile phone into a a contract-free WiFi-enabled sixth generation iPod.

The key word there was WiFi as it allows you to do Mail and Safari without a phone connection. Pretty sneaky, eh? We thought so, too. In case you want to know how the trick is done, here's the test performed by the good guys of online blog TUAW:

* Removed SIM and replaced it with an invalid, unactivated, no-account SIM: Still works as 6G WiFi iPod. Still Synced properly to iTunes. Tried placing call. It failed (as expected).
* Removed SIM entirely: It complains but works at 6G WiFi iPod. Tried placing call. "No SIM card installed". Failed. Connected to iTunes. Synced without any problems I could detect. WiFi fine.
* Removed activated SIM and placed into a cheap disposable AT&T cell phone: Worked fine. Was able to place calls. Good way to save your iPhone from danger on ski or bike trips.
* Placed SIM from cheap disposable AT&T Pay as You Go phone into iPhone. Call failed. WiFi fine.

I think I will go out and get one now. I just want to know how hard taking the sim out is. If not so bad, I will be all over this. Finally!

News via: QJ.net

Don't Look: The iPhone Costs Apple $220 in Components



Hey, a guy's gotta make a buck, and it looks like Apple is a guy that's gotta make a lot of bucks. When technology analyst fir Portelligent dissected the iPhone, they determined the components of the 4GB model run $200, with the 8GB running just $20 more. But Portelligent admits that it's tough to price components with intentionally mysterious origins.

The touchscreen, for example, is estimated to be the most expensive component of the phone at $60. But there are no markings under the surface as to where the screen was manufactured, even though most people believe it was a German company named Balda. The microprocessor is clearly of Samsung origin, even though stamped firmly with the Apple symbol. So does Apple not want companies to know their suppliers, or for the public to know just how cheap their iPhone really is?

DVD Jon whips up a way to activate iPhone without AT&T



The headline kind of says it all: a little hex editing of iTunes, a little hostfile hacking, a little program called Phone Activation Server v1.0, and you're on your way to an AT&T service free iPhone, friend. That's right, Jon, knock that toxic AT&T-tied iPod-coffee out of Steve's hand.

Ok, so apparently the phone still doesn't work (we wonder if there isn't some kind of mechanism that binds the iPhone to select AT&T SIMs), so it's not like it's an unlocked device, but at least you can now use it as "the best iPod [Apple's] ever made." We've yet to confirm the method though -- anyone want to give it a shot? Let us know in comments.

battery life of 5 hours!!! booo!!

the only thing iphone has to boast is the multi touch user interface.....kindof stuff you see in movies...

Thanks for the infos.

Nice phone indeed but nothing for me. I wouldn´t even know what to do with 4 GB, *laugh*.

I also prefer smaller phones.

But Apple computers rock!

it wont be here in india for a long time...

i have one is good mobile

Can u guys tell me why a person would want a iphone?I mean,from what i read so far,besides the ipod-like function and the sleek look,it's has nothing that others phones doesn't already have.so....guys?

Most iPodders will buy it because of two reasons:
a - it's familiar with the iPhone and they can relate to it easily
b - it's design alone, and the massive media hype following everything iPhone related.

It's on my shopping list, but I'm not as excited as I was at first. After finding out the low specs and major drawbacks on it, it's easy to see this is more of a dip in the market and here will be an iPhone 2 soon coming out. Better wait for that one IMO.

The I-phone has been here for weeks now... It came out in June.

see these links

there's rumors about an iphone 2, is it true?
iPhone nano

here's reviews of the iphone for dummies

Apple iPhone Review

iPhone Mania!

check out the blog, it's alright isn't it? I think it's just starting out, i'm gonna observe it

I went to my local AT&T store the day the iPhone came out, fully expecting to walk out with one. After playing with it for about 30 minutes I was amazed at the fact that it really is an unimpressive phone. Let me elaborate...

The UI is absolutely amazing. Hands down, it is the best mobile UI I've ever seen. Once you get past that however, it's a boring phone with almost no feature set when compared to other "smartphones".

Now with that said, there are rumors coming from a few reliable sources that Apple will be delivering a firmware update soon that addresses MANY issues. Once that happens and we start to see some third-party developers release some real apps, we might just have a winner on our hands... (none of this "web app" garbage - those aren't apps, they're mobile websites and there's a big difference!)

Until then all I can really say is that if you're coming from a smartphone, you will likely be very unhappy with the iPhone in its current state.

Precisely, you'd get bored using it everyday without them.
There's only so long you can sit there playing with the screen, after a while you'd just look odd.

Lol that's what people have been telling Apple - even before the iPhone was released!

Only time will tell what the future holds...

I agree some-what. THe phone is crazy amazing. Love the UI. You can easily Mod the iPhone and get ringtones, Carier logos and change the order of the icons (search iFuntastic for mac users. Its a GUI for us non programers types). If you are a little more comfortable you can hack it more with the full version of Jail Break. Change the slider button, change the wall paper (home screen background), even edit the icons themselves and change the system sounds. I will update all the time on my Everything iPhone page.

I think the big reason that apple will not alow 3rd party apps is: ( even thought people have figured how to run terminal and can program basic "hello world", its only a matter of time till we see 3rd party underground apps {untill apple pushes an update to lock that out}) apple is very proud of how secure their devices are. I don't think they want people to develop 3rd party apps and other people finding ways to work around and take control of the device, or installing a virus in the background (because that would make it a whole lot worse then just never allowing anyone to make 3rd party apps). But I guess we will see what happens when we get a real update (not a 0.0.1 update)

i really liked the phone when i saw it first on the net and

but after i discoverd less functions compared to

other smart phones my favor for the i phone went away ...

i heard that there will be another i phone model to be

released hope to see its functions soon ...



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if the apple add more functions plus the missing needful functions

to there next i phone release it will rock for sure ... im still an

addicted to the design of the i phone ...

Refurbished models are already available for a $100 discount.

Check out the Apple site, not on the AT&T site however.

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-976...?tag=cnetfd.mt




http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebO...tified%20iPhone