link for yellow trousers
this is the same wallpaper I complained about a few months ago. only this time it has the addition of a seam, and it's been posted by HAZOR. Who looks like he copied it from the first guy who posted it, HungNc.

and what's up with allowing all these topless photos? I thought this site was watched more carefully than this. Again, young kids have no business seeing, much less being able, to download this crap.

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this last one digusts me the most. Not only is it showing bare breasts, but also pudenda.Cmon guys. Why are you letting this crap through? You should be ashamed. And that goes for Heffner and HAZOR too. topless#5
and he has the nerve to call it "Sweet Couple" oh please. puke puke puke

here's another topless
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and this one is courtesy of cZ|RaL.f

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contributed by Hungnc

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eland13--cmon, a nipple-sucking smurf?

I'm not a prude by any means. I just find this content totally inappropriate for this site, as it is accessed by kids too young to have any business getting this type of material. This is the kind of stuff you could make available thru a premium subscription. There ya go! Make some more money for mobile9, and get this stuff where it should be. Behind you-gotta-pay-for-it doors.
Pam

Adult content aren't being validated to the gallery at the moment.

We are working to clean the gallery too, but this will take sometime as it will need to do one by one.

Thanks for your patience.

If adult content isn't being validated, then why were more than a few of these just added within the last week? Someone isn't looking at what they are validating.

It's only been rejected since a few days ago

It's my understanding it was never allowed. And at least 2 of these were posted within the last couple days. Yellow Trousers and the smurf one are still listed as new. Went up on the 13th. After your new policy, if you say it's been a few days. Only took me 40mins to find the ones I listed. How much harder is it for those of you employed by mobile9? And to delete them at the same time?

There are no employees on mobile9, all volunteers.


We'll try to be more carefull when approving adult orientated content.

Just checking back. So very happy to see the papers listed have been removed. And whether Adonis likes it or not, this "fiery"(translate:pushy) female will continue to scan the galleries. I'm an American! mom first, and a mobile9 user second.
Pam.
(inside joke Adonis. You know what I'm referring to)

Hi mysmyrrh

Also I do not have gladly if it become too generous with naked facts, but me it seems the fact that you look for one and wants to forbid the same.

I could possibly give you that free of charge tip which you your user pic change should!


Me seems this lady is a little too generous for a teacher types like you?

Test this to chanche as a option!



It would be well if the moral introduction holds, but should the persons those that examine a censorship to submit thereby it convincingly works themselves.

What you mean?


Sex-Free Days

Rusty

I had a hard time understanding your English, but I think I got the gist. Lets see if you can fully understand this, since apparently you didn't bother to read my intial post fully.
I object to these wallpapers because young kids access this site. They do not need to see, or be able to download these types of wallpapers. It is against the law for children under the age of 18 to purchase, or obtain, pictures containing nudity. It's not hard to find them when you are looking for wallpapers. I did not set out that evening to chase down every topless or bottomless picture I could find. I was looking for stuff for my own phone when I came across them. As a mother, I object to them soley on the basis as being inappropriate material for minors. My own views on what is deemed pornographic material is liberal. If it's being viewed or used by adults, I have no problem. I've certainly seen my share of x-rated movies!
I could care less if adults are looking and downloading the papers in question. But because mobile9 has no controls to stop children from downloading them, they need to be taken down. So yes, my "censorship" is valid. Would you like to see mobile9 done away with all together just because you boys can't get your titty fix? Websites have been taken down for less.
As far as my avatar goes, that's my business. It's not a picture up for downloading. And I sincerely doubt many kids ever see it. If mobile9 administrators ever asked me to change it, I would do so. I don't see it as being hypocritical in any way. If you had bothered to really read and understand my initial post, you would know my objections were based on these being available to minors. Nothing else.

I fully understand and respect your opinion.

But I personally think, it is really not necessary to delete themes for a mobile phone because they contain a small amount of nudity.
The screen size of a phone is at 176x220px (at least my SE). Thats nothing special.
Kids UNDER the age of 18 can buy magazines like BRAVO, that are not considered something bad. And they can see photos of naked people in these Magazines full size 210x297 cm!
And that is just the naked person, without bars and grafical work around it!!

Dont get me wrong, I think it is okay, that themes are deleted when they consist of nothing else then a picture of two t.its.
But I dont want my themes to get deleted because they may contain some nudity. I always have the intention to do a piece of art if I theme. And for me it doesnt matter if a kid aged 13 or 14 sees that when browsing this gallery. He may already had sex by this age today! So why should I bother uploading a small picture?

I agree with Crystal kids who watch tv see nudity even during the commercials..when i was at school we had naked statues in the corridors..if adult themes have an 18 plus warning..i don't see the problem if a kid is old and wise enough to download a theme from M9..then they are probably old enough to go on XRated sites..just because it says... if you are not 18 leave..does not mean they will..it might be up to the parents to monitor their kids on the internet..i don't think it's right that people who want adult themes can't have them

With this being my first post I reckon some of you will dismiss whatever I say. We all started at our first post so my opinion should be just as valid as any long term member.

While I do agree that adult content should be kept out of Mobile9 I do think removing every image containing a bit of nudity is slightly over the top.
Kids can see tits simply by opening to Page 3 in the daily newspaper. They don't need to go online to look for their fix of nudity.

If it's way too much (for example showing sexual poses, private parts etc etc) then yes, it should be removed but showing a tit or 2 is nothing compared to other stuff available out there.

Kids have matured since 10 years ago. Seeing a nipple on Mobile9 will not be the first time they've seen it.

I say let mild nudity through the filters. If they can see it on Page 3 (for those of you not familiar with Page 3; it's a feature run daily in The Sun Newspaper in Britain where women pose half naked) then there's no harm in letting them see it here.

A very good first post I must say.

unfortunately, if is decided that no nudity is allowed, then it is black and white. there is no gray area. although readly available internet-wide, m9 will not condone any nudity.

mobile9 prides itself in a broad and diversified reach, that includes a 12 year old girl googling " mobile themes". from an ethical standpoint, its just not proper to expose young minds to nudity unnecessarily. some are liberal with nudity, but the internet is such that it is global. what one considers as "whats the big deal with a little nipple?" may be obscene to another.

with that said, there is a difference between nudity and sexy. in validating "sexy", personal disgresion is exercised in determining what is deemed to be tasteful or obscene. if there is a theme/wallpaper that a user feels is objectionable, please provide a link and it will be re-evaluated.

All of the papers I listed were just that. Nudity of a sexual nature. I have no problem with the naked human form. But when it's shown in a sexually suggestive pose meant for no other reason than being sexual, then it has no place here. There are several wallpapers that are drawn images showing a bit of breast. I said nothing at all about those. Because the subject pose wasn't sexual in nature. It's still ridiculous that little boys need to draw tits, but boys will be boys.
As for kids being more mature? Not at all. The media and society have forced it on them. When there are publications like this Page 3 you mention floating around with no age restriction, it comoounds the problem. I am an American. So a lot of what passes over there, doesn't cut it here. Thank God for that. When you have to counsel the parents of a 10yr old rape victim, sensitivity to these issues is guaranteed. The assailants? Two 13 yrolds who got ahold of a porn video and decided it would be fun to try it out on the little girl next door. So for all of those who think i'm being nitpicky and over the top, walk in my shoes for a day or so. And then stop and think, do kids really need to have access to this crap?
And I think your post was great! Who cares if you're a new member? Anyone who can put intelligent sentences together is okay in my book!
Pam

Well I just downloaded a Video called Skeleton Sex.

It might not contain nudity per se but it does contain sexual positions which 12 year old girls should not be exposed to.

I downloaded it already so you can go ahead and delete it now.


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You posted as I was typing.

I didn't get to see any of the images you linked to in the first post of this thread as they were all removed but going by the following posts I just persumed you were protesting about everything that contains nudity.

I have done themes showing some nudity..but i look at it as art..but what about the famous art galleries..parents take their kids..should we ban..Michelangelo's art.. or the Vatican City..i think there is a big difference..between art and porn..and most themers on M9 use nudity in an artistic way but i believe the Admins should decide what's porn and what's art.. and that's that!

there is a huge difference between nudity in classical art and nudity meant soley for sexual stimulation. it sounds like you have trouble discerning between the two.

I can assure you i have no trouble discerning between the two..i do not agree with children viewing porn..but i am talking about nudity used in themes if you class the nudity in our themes as porn..then you have to class the.. classical art.. as porn also..

you know what they say about assuming. it makes an a** of you and me. lol
i've seen skeleton sex. it's funny! but you're right, kids don't need to see it.
Unfortunately, there are mainly males in admin here, of a young enough age that they just don't see anything wrong with anything pertaining to nudity. So of course, they think tits are great. And they are. I have a pair. But when they don't get to download them to their phones, they begin to whinge. Or have friends parrot the whinging for them. I still think a paid subscription section for adult content is a great idea.
I am not in favor of censoring adults. I have no interest in telling any adult what they may or maynot look at. Just kids. As adults, we can make our own decisions about what is best for us. I never intended to make it sound like I am such a friggin prude that the sight of a tit makes me run for the hills. A few narrow minds, however, decided to make it look that way. I have my own vintage porn collection. But as I am an adult, and keep it well away from any young eyes, it's my business.

I can assure you i have no trouble discerning between the two..i do not agree with children viewing porn..but i am talking about nudity used in themes if you class the nudity in our themes as porn..then you have to class the.. classical art.. as porn also..
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considering I never said a blessed word about any themes, you are putting words and actions in my mouth and hands. I have no interest in any of your themes, or anyone elses. I have no use for them on my phone. Wallpapers, however, I do use. And frequently surf with my grandson. So it is my duty to keep him from things he has no business looking at for another 13 or so years.
p.s. porn is porn is porn. and it's a stereotypical argument to call it art. so do yourself a favor. don't try and put a silk dress on that pig. it doesn't fit, and never looks good. if it's nudity meant for the SOLE purpose of sexual stimulation, it's porn. and wiser people than myself have classified it as such. Ever hear of the Supreme Court?

I understand and appreciate what you are saying..but i just wanted to make it known..that some of us use nudity in our work....i have used nude wallpapers in themes ..but in an artistic way

I totally disagree with the paid subscription, since it would undermine the purpose of this website in the first place, and it would only be tempting other themers to do more adult themes, since they'll get paid for it. Let's leave money out of the equation please

But i agree that there has to be some form of censorship, and i strongly believe the senior admins will be fair in filtering out the obscene from the artistic.

Just when is it Art and when is it Porn? It all depends on the eye of the beholder, in which none of us has the right to criticize.

the paid subscription was meant to earn money for mobile9. not themers, or those who upload papers and videos. if people want to create them, and other people want to download them, let the downloaders pay mobile9 for having to create a separate website, not as a financial reward to the uploaders. and I still think it's a good idea. If having nudity so readily available is so important to so many, there has to be a solution equally pleasing to all.
and for the purposes of defining porn, I am using the definition created by the United States Supreme Court. Which is
NUDITY OF A SEXUAL NATURE MEANT SOLEY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEXUAL STIMULATION AND/OR EXPLOITATION OF A CERTAIN CLASS OF PEOPLES. Have you paid attention to ANY of my previous posts?

and that is my final word on the subject. we can all go around and around for days. And it's so patently obvious who are adults with children, and who aren't. Just remember, one day when you have children, or care for children. You only ever want what is best for them. Exposing them to sex and violence at early ages only leads them to becoming desensitized to the issue. Would you like to have your young daughter raped because porn was so easily available that two 13yrolds decided to gang bang a little girl just to see what it was like? Because lackadaisical attitudes toward decency standards are what create situations like that one. It is up to each and every one of us to try and make the world a safe and secure place for our children to live in. And if that means that a bunch of little boys can't download a set of tits to their mobile phones, OH WELL!

and this is addressed to no one in particular, and to everyone at large. So don't email me because you took this personally.

@mysmyrrh - Look, I don't like the naked nudey themes/wallpapers, even if they are "art". I'm probably a bit of a prude, as I don't even like Hungnc's avatar, I think while it's funny I don't really enjoy having it thrust in my face everyday when I come here.

BUT! if you can own vintage porn in your house and keep it away from the kids, I don't see why you can't keep your mobile9-ing away from the kids as well. Why don't you keep your mobile9 surfing under wraps until the kids go to bed. It's not that hard.

Instead of a payed subscription to an adults only section, why don't we just impose that a person put in their date of birth on registration (as a mandatory field on the form) and make it so that it's not editable once entered. Then make the adults only section only accessible to those over an age limit. Obviously it's not foolproof. But nothing ever is.

***EDIT - oh one more thing - your avatar is sexually suggestive. I suppose it's ok for your grandson to see that since it's got clothes on, right?

a. My grandson has never seen my avatar. I don't use my homesite when he's with me.

b. The whole point of surfing with me grandson is so he can find cartoon pictures. So when i'm surfing the cartoon section and get walloped by a pair of tits, i'm gonna say something. There is something called responsible surfing. Which means I only let him see areas appropriate for kids. Why should I have to forgo something we both enjoy doing simply because someone has to post tits and a**?

Please look into the matter from a wider perspective. Would it be ok with you if someone sold some of your works and make a profit out of it? without any compensation to you whatsoever? Last i checked, doesn't that break the laws on Intellectual Property Rights?



Yes I have, and that last remark from me was never meant for a specific person, it applies to everyone. Please don't misunderstand.

Roflmao! okay, before I post my reply I have something to pass along to the mobile9 community at large.
I have a BlackBerry. So naturally, my "you have mail" tone has been going off pretty frequently tonite. My husband asked what all the email was about. (we're waiting to hear from our daughter in Iraq). So I told him all about this thread, why I started it etc. He says you all have his deepest sympathy. He's had to live with my argumentative nature for 25 years, so he feels for you all. Lmao!
Anyway-if giving up some intellectual rights is what someone would have to do to ensure their themes are published, then that would have to be an individual decision. Speaking as a jewelry designer, i've lost so much stuff to internet thievery it's not funny. Which is why I made the choice not to publish on the internet anymore. So that would obviously have to be a term of some sort that themers could live with.
And I apologise for being snippy in my last reply to you. I did take it personally. I made, like an idiot, an assumption. So I apologise.

Ok, why should the rest of the world have to change to satisfy you?



There's also something called responsible parenting. The internet is no place for young children, end of story.

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I never said the whole world had to change to suit me. I love it when someone who really has no intelligent comeback to make changes facts to suit themselves.
Responsible parenting is why he surfs with an adult. You're entitled to your opinion. But make sure you actually know whereof you speak before you open your mouth. Mobile9 changed the rules long before I said anything. I'm just helping them root out what they have deemed no longer acceptable.

let me reiterate:


any further discourse on the value and perception of the human form can be continued at the lounge

You hit the nail on the head right there.
All M9 needs is a section entitled ADULT. Therefor any responsible parent would obviously not click on the link while surfing with their child.

It's a sad truth that sex sells. If M9 had a section dedicated to Adults the site would be getting triple the amount of hits it's getting now.

that's not our aim, we only had the adult content filter after come complaints from members on the issue of some risque content which could be filtered off.

We are working now to filter out and remove adult content that has been submitted.

What about this:
You need to provide your date of birth when signing uo to M9.
The adult themes get an extra section and when someone tries to enter this section, a script checks his/her age an denies access if he/she is under 18.

Should not be a very complicated thing to code and its a good way to ensure the freedom of themers to do themes like they want AND keep kids away from adult content.

Per Augustborn's request here,
http://www.mobile9.com/invboard/index.php?...=259312&st=30&#

Discussion has also started in my blog.
Which can be found here
http://www.mobile9.com/invboard/index.php?...wentry&eid=1044

Ever hear of the Supreme Court?
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I know this an old post but i was bored and started reading. I laughed so hard I nearly fell off my chair when you mentioned the Supreme Court, they couldn't decide what porn is either, ever heard of The People vs. Larry Flynt, and Larry Flint won.

What is obscene to you is fine with others, you have a typical American attitude of your right and the world is wrong, no wonder some many countries hate America.

As for your avatar, yes it is sexually explicit designed only to put one thought into a mans head.

If you don't like this site there are plenty of others to go to, you don't need a mobile site for wallpapers for your phone, goto any Disney or Warner Brothers site for your cartoons, right click, save as, then change the size of the picture to suit your phone.

As is typical with poorly educated people, you have no reading comprehension skills. The entire thrust of my OP was that if mobile9 claims to be a site for all ages, then most definitely porn themed wallpapers have no place here.
And as for being a typical American, I'd rather be that than Euro trash. I don't think I'm right and everyone else is wrong. Here in America we have something called "free speech". That means I can say pretty much say whatever I want, whether you agree with it or not. That's poles apart from thinking I'm right and everyone else is wrong. So F U and the horse you rode in on buddy.

Now, now people, settle down. While we at mobile9 believe in free speech, we also have rules that need to be followed, cussing or swearing, racial and derogatory remarks are not allowed (even acronyms) so please, kindly refrain from using that kind of language here.

Peace!

We no longer validate any adult wallpapers into the gallery.

This topic will be closed now.