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verysoon
i came across this email by Gary Larson, the creator of the Far Side cartoons. (pls search around if u dunno who he is. his works of humour are SOLID!
he wrote this email to websites that displayed his works without permission.
i think it's beautifully written & able to get his message across politely & effectively.
somehow, it relates to how some of us feels.

QUOTE
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

I'm walking a fine line here.

On the one hand, I confess to finding it quite flattering that some of my fans have created web sites displaying and / or distributing my work on the Internet. And, on the other, I'm struggling to find the words that convincingly but sensitively persuade these Far Side enthusiasts to "cease and desist" before they have to read these words from some lawyer.

What impact this unauthorized use has had (and is having) in tangible terms is, naturally, of great concern to my publishers and therefore to me -- but it's not the focus of this letter. My effort here is to try and speak to the intangible impact, the emotional cost to me, personally, of seeing my work collected, digitized, and offered up in cyberspace beyond my control.

Years ago I was having lunch one day with the cartoonist Richard Guindon, and the subject came up how neither one of us ever solicited or accepted ideas from others. But, until Richard summed it up quite neatly, I never really understood my own aversions to doing this: ''It's like having someone else write in your diary, he said. And how true that statement rang with me . In effect, we drew cartoons that we hoped would be entertaining or, at the very least, not boring; but regardless, they would always come from an intensely personal, and therefore original perspective.

To attempt to be "funny" is a very scary, risk-laden proposition. (Ask any stand-up comic who has ever "bombed" on stage.) But if there was ever an axiom to follow in this business, it would be this: be honest to yourself and -- most important -- respect your audience.

So, in a nutshell (probably an unfortunate choice of words for me), I only ask that this respect be returned, and the way for anyone to do that is to please, please refrain from putting The Far Side out on the Internet. These cartoons are my "children," of sorts, and like a parent, I'm concerned about where they go at night without telling me. And, seeing them at someone's web site is like getting the call at 2:00 a.m. that goes, "Uh, Dad, you're not going to like this much, but guess where I am."

I hope my explanation helps you to understand the importance this has for me, personally, and why I'm making this request.

Please send my "kids" home. I'll be eternally grateful.


Most respectfully,

Gary Larson


let's work together to spot websites who stole from us. keep a lookout. inform the creators. it just not right for our "kids" to be running around without our consent, much worse if own "kids" don't even bear own Surnames!
vinnieza
ohmy.gif, i'm a kid sad.gif, we're not all like it
scubyd00
haha.gif vinn you're not a kid wink.gif you're part of the elite and i'll leave it at that wink.gif haha.gif
vinnieza
elite sad.gif oh i want team haha.gif

**jokin**
Carlsb3rg
hmmm... you always like to joke about that vinn dont ya ? tongue.gif
Vlammetje
It's a delicate subject to our vinnie wink.gif

Anyway.... yes that's a good idea verysoon... it's oh so hard to control things on the net but I know for sure I felt robbed when somebody else was showing off my themes robbed.gif
verysoon
with his website showcasing his works, spawn suffered the most. couldn't remember which websites stole from him, it's at esato forum.
he contacted them, but i wonder what's the outcome.
btw, only our nice vlamm here is on topic..... the rest....sigh
maampia
Been in this situation too before and just like vlam I felt robbed too when somebody else was showing off my themes. wink.gif
vinnieza
how much is it to copyright themes? we could copyright every single theme on mob 9 smile.gif or can't that be done beacause the images weren't made by us?
Evrae
Thats why I get so annoyed as I often make my own images but it takes forever and nobody notices crybaby.gif

haha.gif
verysoon
haha.gif do u think i noticed or not?
scubyd00
i remember august had told me about 2months ago that someone had taken one of my themes and pimped it out as one of his so i tried emailing the guy but of course no response rifle.gif
ArcticRider
man, i hate it when people try to take credit for something that's not theirs/they didn't do


it just pisses me off ban.gif oops.gif
vinnieza
the post above was posted by scubyd00

haha.gif **jokin**
ArcticRider
hehehe

sorry if the reply sounded a bit harsh wink.gif
vinnieza
nah, not really wink.gif
vinnieza
what's the most leached theme from mob 9?
scubyd00
how many themes have been stolen from anyone? i've had 2 crybaby.gif i think that's what august said crybaby.gif
vinnieza
don o, probably none tongue.gif
maampia
Really don't know how many since I don't have an access to all available sites offering T610 themes but from what I know and have seen, probably two also by that juan_je something guy at e**** (it was august too who first noticed it). wink.gif
verysoon
QUOTE (maampia @ Feb 5 2004, 04:35 PM)
probably two also by that juan_je something guy at e****

now that u mentioned, i remember. he stole mine too.
Vlammetje
he stole form everybody robbed.gif
vinnieza
did he stael mine? when?

expert, you may need to add a copyright notice:

Theme makers
Copyright © 2004 [Mobile 9]. All rights reserved.
Revised: 02/05/04
verysoon
@expert: can u sue some thief? some of us here needs a p900.
thanks in advance
vinnieza
nope, as they're not his work and are not really copyrighted
maampia
Well, he could have stolen our themes but I was able to get back at him when I openly posted (for everyone to see) on the thread that I started at e****. I really told him that I know what he has done and that I am really offended. Well, he never showed up again from then on. smile.gif
ArcticRider
QUOTE (maampia @ Feb 5 2004, 08:20 PM)
Well, he could have stolen our themes but I was able to get back at him when I openly posted (for everyone to see) on the thread that I started at e****. I really told him that I know what he has done and that I am really offended. Well, he never showed up again from then on. smile.gif

nice !!

that's the way to deal with those people
vinnieza
which thread? where is it?
verysoon
QUOTE (vinnieza @ Feb 7 2004, 12:48 AM)
which thread? where is it?

yah. post it.
Vlammetje
As the guy was banned from e**** (and assumed a few new identities that were also banned) there is a chance the thread was deleted.... I remember it though
vinnieza
@Vlamm, what did it say? did it say, look at some of my themes?
Vlammetje
as I recall he gave a link to his site and said free themes for everybody and he also wanted people to add their themes to his site. A few ppl had a look and there were some awfully familiar themes there ohmy.gif
maampia
This is the one I posted for him to read and for everybody else to see... dry.gif

http://www.e****.com/board/viewtopic.php?t...41589&start=180

Oww, unfortunately it doesn't work... wink.gif
vinnieza
it does, all you have to do is click it and change the e**** to e s a t o (all one word) or copy the link to your browser and do it wink.gif
simon211175
hey hey hey, I've had my first theme stolen thumbsup.gif Feels Like I'm a real themer now.

Anyway, found lots of familiar themes on the following site - including some of the entries into this week's contest! robbed.gif busted_cop.gif

http://www.thet610.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
vinnieza
when our our themes going to be copyrighted? robbed.gif

i bet none of mine are there, i don't have a rar extracter so i can't see sad.gif, i have a free download one though, but don't want to install it (lazy)

btw thanks for reporting it thumbsup.gif
simon211175
Yours are on that site too vinnie. thumbdown.gif
vinnieza
ohmy.gif which ones? i know some of ex's are, and very's also yours, scubs, augusts etc.

wow my themes are good enough to be stolen smile.gif, how did you find that site? maybe we could cauch others out the same way thumbsup.gif

edit: confermed, i saw my mgs ones in the game pack (i installed rar) also verys lemmings one, jefs one also this person at esato whom requested a ssx theme and others e.g scubs
adonisdemon
QUOTE (verysoon @ Feb 6 2004, 02:36 AM)
@expert: can u sue some thief? some of us here needs a p900.
thanks in advance

i want in if we are suing as i can't afford to buy a p900, hopefully we win! haha.gif
(i have a good lawyer) oops.gif
adonisdemon
QUOTE (maampia @ Feb 7 2004, 10:17 AM)
This is the one I posted for him to read and for everybody else to see... dry.gif

http://www.e****.com/board/viewtopic.php?t...41589&start=180

Oww, unfortunately it doesn't work... wink.gif

maampia the link isn't available anymore i think? oops.gif
vinnieza
we probably can't and also it'll probably cost too much for what it's worth if we did (unless someone knows a friend which is a lawyer and they're good and wont charge money haha.gif)
adonisdemon
QUOTE (vinnieza @ Mar 2 2004, 02:43 AM)
we probably can't and also it'll probably cost too much for what it's worth if we did (unless someone knows a friend which is a lawyer and they're good and wont charge money haha.gif)

well my lawyers almost like a friend cos of the amount of times i see him! haha.gif
they almost like ripped of all the themes from m9 and posted on their site! robbed.gif
simon211175
I can't remember how I found the site - might have even been a link from here? It was a new site that's only been up for a short while.

Isn't it funny how we all have mixed opinions about theme thieves? On one hand we hate them for the stealing thing, but on the other, we're flattered that they deem our work to be worthy of spreading. thumbsup.gif thumbdown.gif
vinnieza
@simon, i was thinking the same haha.gif, but they still could ask for permission, at the moment m9 has a contract with me that they'll be the only ones that can host my themes apart from if i host them (oops.gif sorry i was dreaming again tongue.gif)
simon211175
and they haven't even acknowledged what site they got them from either. Bitc*es
adonisdemon
@simon well some form of consent would have been alright.
i think they can't make any themes that's why they've nicked them!
robbed.gif
cheap
robbed.gif
vinnieza
QUOTE (simon211175 @ Mar 1 2004, 04:59 PM)
and they haven't even acknowledged what site they got them from either. Bitc*es

or who made them robbed.gif
adonisdemon
i feel violated haha.gif oops.gif
adonisdemon
one thing i was wondering, if it might be helpful to put mobile9 on themes like jefdizon does on his themes, haha.gif
just a thought, haha.gif
vinnieza
no point, there was no preview shown so that wouldn't do anything sad.gif

i think there should be a copyright notice at the bottom of each post saying the contents in this gallery are copyrighter by there creators and by mobile 9, distrubutiing these files without permission is against the law and you may be prosicuted!
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